Things That Bother You About Gaming

Started by Spark Of Spirit, May 17, 2011, 03:10:13 PM

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Rynnec

It's like Developers are using DLC as an excuse to half-ass a game so they can reach the market in time for the holiday season and what-not.

A shame really, DLC is an excellent idea in concept,  but was botched on execution.

Rosalinas Spare Wand

Quote from: Foggle on July 06, 2011, 05:16:08 PM
Here are the notes for the newest Fallout: New Vegas patch (released today). They pretty much prove that Obsidian are incompetent and not capable of having a fully-functional game on release.

This, ladies and gentleman, is the reason why I've never seen WRPG's by Obsidian or Bethesda as anything more than a joke.

Just look at that list. Seriously? How many years did they have to work on this?

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

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I stopped caring about anything made by Obsidian or Bethesda after I tried Oblivion and Fallout 3. I just don't really understand what about those games was supposed to be any fun. Maybe they are big with huge open worlds, but I had almost nothing interesting to do in them. Talking to people was boring, the combat in both games was dreadfully boring, and it felt like it took way too long for me to gain a significant amount of money or experience. I just got bored of both games really, really fast.

To be fair, though, I'm not a big fan of RPGs to begin with (Western or Japanese).

Foggle

Obsidian is completely different from Bethesda. They also made KOTOR 2, Alpha Protocol, and Dungeon Siege 3, all of which are decent games that are held back by their inability to release anything other than a beta.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

I haven't played the other games, but I can say that despite having some technical issues KOTOR 2 was hardly what I'd call a beta. I almost completely forgot that Obsidian worked on that, but it was a well-constructed game. I think as far as sequels go, I can compare its problems quite a bit to those of NG2, in that the game had a lot going for it but was unfortunately rushed into its release and didn't get the proper amount of polish that it deserved. Still, its not like it was overly-glitchy and most of the game played just fine, so I was personally happy with KOTOR 2 (though I definitely prefer the 1st game for its more finely-tuned gameplay and story).

Foggle

New Vegas and Alpha Protocol are their main offenders as far as glitches go. Most people just hate on DS3 because it's absolutely nothing like the first two.

I remember KOTOR 2 being pretty buggy, but I heard that was actually the fault of LucasArts' executive meddling more than it was Obsidian's incompetence.

gunswordfist

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 07, 2011, 01:29:49 AM
I stopped caring about anything made by Obsidian or Bethesda after I tried Oblivion and Fallout 3. I just don't really understand what about those games was supposed to be any fun. Maybe they are big with huge open worlds, but I had almost nothing interesting to do in them. Talking to people was boring, the combat in both games was dreadfully boring, and it felt like it took way too long for me to gain a significant amount of money or experience. I just got bored of both games really, really fast.

To be fair, though, I'm not a big fan of RPGs to begin with (Western or Japanese).
Oblivion sucks ass.

I am really to give Fallout a try though
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Foggle

If you don't like Oblivion, don't waste your time with Fallout 3 or New Vegas. They're basically the exact same game but with guns and more bugs.

gunswordfist

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Dr. Ensatsu-ken

Quote from: Foggle on July 07, 2011, 02:01:33 AM
I remember KOTOR 2 being pretty buggy, but I heard that was actually the fault of LucasArts' executive meddling more than it was Obsidian's incompetence.

I have played the full game twice. Its not. Whoever said that obviously likes to exaggerate the hell out of a few minor bugs.

Foggle

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 07, 2011, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: Foggle on July 07, 2011, 02:01:33 AM
I remember KOTOR 2 being pretty buggy, but I heard that was actually the fault of LucasArts' executive meddling more than it was Obsidian's incompetence.

I have played the full game twice. Its not. Whoever said that obviously likes to exaggerate the hell out of a few minor bugs.
Not game-breaking bugs or anything, but there were quite a few from what I remember. Mostly random freezes and crashes every so often, along with occasional broken save points and other stuff like that. I played the PC version, btw. The Xbox one is supposed to be a lot better.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

Yeah, I wouldn't know about how the PC version was. The XBOX version never gave me any broken saves or whatnot, and there is only ever one time that the game froze on me (and I think it was my XBOX that caused the freeze in that case rather than the game itself, because it had happened a few times with other games as well).

Foggle


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