Unpopular Opinions You Hold About Animation

Started by Avaitor, November 09, 2011, 08:18:46 PM

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Dr. Ensatsu-ken

This was at one point my favorite Cartoon Cartoon. After having re-watched most of the series last year, I have to admit that it hasn't aged as gracefully as I had hoped. That by no means indicates that I think its bad, because I don't. Its a lot of silly, dumb humor (and wouldn't you know, Seth MacFarlane used to be a writer for this show), but the better seasons still manage to entertain the hell out of me. That said, now that I've grown older, I have to admit that I've gained more of an appreciation for series like Courage the Cowardly Dog, The Powerpuff Girls, and Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, which I enjoyed just fine as a kid, but didn't have quite the same appeal to me then as they do now.

Nel_Annette

Johnny Bravo provided me with a line I've been quoting since my preteen days for whenever anything goes wrong: "Curse you, Benjamin Franklin! You knew this would happen!"  ;D

gunswordfist

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 30, 2013, 10:50:30 PM
This was at one point my favorite Cartoon Cartoon. After having re-watched most of the series last year, I have to admit that it hasn't aged as gracefully as I had hoped. That by no means indicates that I think its bad, because I don't. Its a lot of silly, dumb humor (and wouldn't you know, Seth MacFarlane used to be a writer for this show), but the better seasons still manage to entertain the hell out of me. That said, now that I've grown older, I have to admit that I've gained more of an appreciation for series like Courage the Cowardly Dog, The Powerpuff Girls, and Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, which I enjoyed just fine as a kid, but didn't have quite the same appeal to me then as they do now.
Funny enough, for some reason I was barely into JB. Mostly because I missed a lot of episodes for some reason, but I did like it.

For me, the episodes I liked as a kid, are still as funny to me, if not funny. It's just that the randomness and lack of vision on the show wears on me. And of course Suzy and Carl bore me.
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LumRanmaYasha

Johnny Bravo is hit or miss for me nowadays. There are lots of awesome episodes like "Bravo Dooby Doo" and "Johnny Bravo meets Adam West," but there are also meh episodes like...quite a bit of the fourth season.  :sweat:

Avaitor

I need to go back to my Cartoon Cartoon series and do a full rewatch and analysis of the post-season 1 episodes. I've only seen bits and pieces of that part of the show in recent years, but not everything.
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Silverstar

The fundamental flaw of Johnny Bravo is that it's always had the thinnest premise of all the original Cartoon-Cartoons. Compare the basic premises of Dexter, PPG, Cow and Chicken, Courage and Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy and compare them to that of Johnny Bravo--a buff blond buffoon with an Elvis-soundalike voice tries and fails to pick up women--and you see where the problem lies.

That's why while I know that the 2nd and 3rd season JBs by Kirk Tingblad and Russel Calabrese get a lot of flack from fans (even show creator Van Partible apparently wasn't a fan of them), I actually think they're pretty good; Tingblad and Calabrese at least deserve some credit for trying to take the show beyond its' decidedly limited foundations.

Carl didn't bore me, personally; I thought he made a decent foil for Johnny, although Pops was my favorite character on that show. Someone else elaborated on this already, but Pops had this dry sort of humor that you rarely see on kids' shows.
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Spark Of Spirit

Yeah, I liked the Carl and Pops additions to the show since they actually added more possibilities for plots beyond how dull the first and last seasons could get at times. Johnny wasn't enough to carry the full show by himself- he needed a foil.
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Avaitor

#727
That's very true. Johnny is fun, but the best episodes gives him someone just as fun to mess around with, mainly celebs or some of the supporting cast. When he's just with a random chick or weird talking animal, that's where the show's cracks begin to appear.
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Kiddington

I never understood how anybody could have a preference for the first and last seasons (especially the last season, which was awful). Half of the time, this era of the show felt like nothing but a weird excuse to throw in some celebrity cameos... and while the first season did definitely have some strong episodes (Scooby, Adam West, the Twilight Zone parodies), it was still hit or miss. The Jungle Boy stuff was pretty bad, IMO.

Seasons 2-3 were great, though. Pops and Carl were nice additions, the writing was better... overall it was just far more consistent, and a lot funnier if you ask me. Really wish we could get these on DVD someday.

talonmalon333

Ah. Here's an unpopular opinion that I wanted to post earlier, but completely forgot.

I like the Simpsons Movie.

Avaitor

I don't think too many of us hate it, even if the general consensus is that we gave it a little more credit than it deserved when it came out.

The movie is still better than the lion's share of episodes made in the past 10+ years, though.
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gunswordfist

I still say they should have stayed in Springfield in the film.
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talonmalon333

Quote from: gunswordfist on May 31, 2013, 10:25:31 PM
I still say they should have stayed in Springfield in the film.

I remember liking the Alaska part.

LumRanmaYasha

Personally, I find myself liking The Simpsons Movie less and less each time I watch it. It keeps annoying me how Bart is completely out of character, how the town and residents of Springfield were underused in favor of Alaska for random reasoning. Homer was alright despite still being a jerkass though, so his plot was pretty good. Though, I'm probably not one of the harshest critics of The Simpsons nowadays anyway, since there are enough episodes that I enjoy per season for me to keep watching new episodes as they come out.

talonmalon333

I like the movie more than any episode released in years now.