Ultimate Spider-Man

[Spark Of Spirit]

If the writing and plots are still good in the remainder of EMH then that's fine enough with me.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Well, I don't mind an episodic structure (I mean, BTAS was completely episodic and that's considered to be the greatest superhero cartoon of all-time, as well as one of the greatest cartoons of all-time in general), but I just hope the current story-arc going on in AEMH gets wrapped up without being too rushed before we go to the episodic part of the season. Season 1 had some stand-alone episodes and they were honestly quite good, so as long as season 2's stand-alone episodes are at least written well, I can still live with that.

I still hate the idea that the show was clearly interfered with and that the 2nd half of the season that we're getting, whether good or bad, isn't what we originally would have gotten had the writers been allowed to carry out things the way that they wanted to.

[Daxdiv]

Wow, even the people on the show hate how USM turned out and Marvel had high hopes for it to the point of greenlighting season 2 before the show even aired. Also, thank you AgentX for making me skip out on the new Hulk cartoon.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

I still don't get Marvel's point of view on this. I could at least understand them making this move if shows like TSSM and AEMH got really low ratings (I'm not saying it would be right, but it would at least make sense from a business point of view), but did they? I mean, were they really getting such poor reception that they had to be canceled? I do know that both of those series were getting positive feedback from viewers, and I would hope that Marvel was at least aware of that.

On the other hand, they are clearly aware that people downright hate USM, but for some reason this is the show that they are putting all of their effort into keeping alive....it just....it doesn't make sense to me no matter which way I try to look at it.

[Spark Of Spirit]

It's odd because the most successful superhero shows are the ones that take after the 90s shows these days. Making it about characters and story first. The ones based on the 80s shows (See pretty much every Marvel show this decade outside of TSSM and EMH) tend to die out fast.

How can Marvel and DC get only TV or film right and not both? It's puzzling.

[Daxdiv]

Reminds me of a conversation I heard in my local comic shop today, where people were praising Young Justice and Avengers, and downplaying DC's film line up and new Spider-Man cartoon.

[GaryPotter]

I didn't think it was possible, but this show is even starting to make ME wish for a return of TSSM.

I think that Disney just flat-out doesn't know how to make TV animation anymore.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Disney didn't make this series. They just own Marvel (and consequently this series, I suppose). If I'm not mistaken Marvel has many of their own established writers and producers behind this show (unless I'm mistaken), so really this series is all on them since they are the ones really trying to push it to be more popular.

[Avaitor]

Yeah, it's all Marvel. And even they have Avengers to make up for USM.

I'm starting to see some gif sets for this show on my tumblr dash, and wow, does this show want to make itself fit in with the movierverse. Thor even says "Son of Coul" again.

[Spark Of Spirit]

True, though now that he says it... it does feel a lot like Phineas & Ferb with Spider-Man in the title role...

[Spark Of Spirit]

Yeah, it's all Marvel. And even they have Avengers to make up for USM.

I'm starting to see some gif sets for this show on my tumblr dash, and wow, does this show want to make itself fit in with the movierverse. Thor even says "Son of Coul" again.

My friend asked me during Avengers, "So when does Coulson find time to be the principal at Peter's school?"

Considering how he was treated in the movie, his cartoon appearance is pretty insulting. 

[Avaitor]

Another gifset I saw introduced Coulson as Peter's principal, and you know what it reminded me? "Principal Amzy" in the Emperor's New School.

God Kronk is dumb.

[GaryPotter]

True, though now that he says it... it does feel a lot like Phineas & Ferb with Spider-Man in the title role...

Exactly.

Marvel may own the show, but I have no doubt Disney is the one ultimately pulling the strings. Especially considering this is the first show they've made under the corporate umbrella. The P&F comparison is apt, though I would also include pretty much all of Disney's live-action properties as well. It has that strange blandness to it, where all the plot-lines are shallow and cliche and the humor is forced and obvious.

[Dr. Insomniac]

True, though now that he says it... it does feel a lot like Phineas & Ferb with Spider-Man in the title role...

Exactly.

Marvel may own the show, but I have no doubt Disney is the one ultimately pulling the strings. Especially considering this is the first show they've made under the corporate umbrella. The P&F comparison is apt, though I would also include pretty much all of Disney's live-action properties as well. It has that strange blandness to it, where all the plot-lines are shallow and cliche and the humor is forced and obvious.

Considering that Disney is usually pretty lax with Marvel (explaining A:EMH), I'm still more prone to blaming Loeb than anything. After all, he's one of the hands in the making of the show.

[Goldstar]

My problem with Ultimate Spider Man isn't that it's comedic; I have a tremendous amount of respect of wacky and silly. It's that the show is just so...bad at it. USM wants to be funnier than it actually is. Heck, even Super Hero Squad was a better show than USM.

Someone at Toon Zone said of Ultimate Spider Man: "It's just like Teen Titans.", to which I have to disagree. Even at it's worst, TT was better written and conceived than USM with it's obnoxious cutaways and it's forced outrageous-ness and it's "teen team" that has absolutely zero chemistry. Spidey's teammates' contributions to the show are often so minor and unimportant that their very presence is something of a joke. USM's producers need to decide once and for all if this is going to be a team show or a Spider Man solo show, because it keeps trying to be both and doesn't do either particularly well.

Thank goodness Marvel Universe has Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes.