Resident Evil: A thread for the undead!

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Well, I think what'll keep RE safe for now is that it's Capcom's biggest franchise, and has been for a little while, at least since 4 came out.

The RE franchise has been big for even longer than that. If I'm not mistaken, RE2 was one of the highest selling PS1 games of all time.

[Avaitor]

Well, I think what'll keep RE safe for now is that it's Capcom's biggest franchise, and has been for a little while, at least since 4 came out.

The RE franchise has been big for even longer than that. If I'm not mistaken, RE2 was one of the highest selling PS1 games of all time.

Yeah, but was it Capcom's biggest at that point? Mega Man was still all over the place until only a few years ago, and Street Fighter got some serious life kicked back into it when IV came out.

Over the past few years, it's been mostly about RE for Capcom.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Capcom could always continue to push dead series like Lost Planet and act like they sell well. They haven't exactly made smart decisions in regards to greenlighting the right things recently.

It's also worth mentioning that RE5 is the best selling game in the series.

It came out after Resident Evil 4. Few games wouldn't get high sales after that one. If anything they should worry for 6 after coming after 5 and ORC (though as Foggle said Revelations might have curbed that a bit) since the backlash on those were huge.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Yeah, but was it Capcom's biggest at that point? Mega Man was still all over the place until only a few years ago, and Street Fighter got some serious life kicked back into it when IV came out.

I believe that when RE2 came out it managed to outsell any MM game released on the PS1, so I'd say that it surpassed Mega Man in popularity by that point in time.

As for SF, it was only with the release of SF4, it was a big deal since it had been a long time since a new numbered SF game had come out, so naturally it was bound to be successful. Even then, its not like SF has peaked up again in popularity since then (now that its been a few years, a lot of the hype for that game has died down). Between SF3 and SF4, it was like the SF franchise was barely in the mind of gamers except for hardcore fans of the series. In contrast, since the PS1, RE has established itself as prominent series and Capcom has always given it plenty of attention since then.

[Foggle]

It's also worth mentioning that RE5 is the best selling game in the series.

It came out after Resident Evil 4. Few games wouldn't get high sales after that one. If anything they should worry for 6 after coming after 5 and ORC (though as Foggle said Revelations might have curbed that a bit) since the backlash on those were huge.

To be fair, Resident Evil 5 was received pretty well by the masses. Almost everyone thought it was inferior to 4, but only hardcore RE fans outright disliked it.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Resident Evil 5 did well, yeah. But I'm not so sure about its general reception, since I never heard anybody rave about it like I did for the Pre-5 games. That said, I don't deny 6 will do well, I'm just not expecting Capcom to be happy (remember how ridiculous their forecasts are?) about its performance.

Yeah, but was it Capcom's biggest at that point? Mega Man was still all over the place until only a few years ago, and Street Fighter got some serious life kicked back into it when IV came out.

I believe that when RE2 came out it managed to outsell any MM game released on the PS1, so I'd say that it surpassed Mega Man in popularity by that point in time.

To be fair, the Mega Man audience wasn't really on the PS1 at the time and the only proper Mega Man game released there was 8 which was.... kind of lame. The X series also sort of fumbled after X4 (which was the only X game with a budget), so even at that time Capcom was losing interest in the series.

[Foggle]

Looks like the majority of reviews are positive, though almost as many are lukewarm. But only a couple are outright negative.

I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that Jim Sterling gave ORC a 7.5/10, while only giving RE6 a 3. His review can be completely discarded as per usual.

And the guy from GameSpot who complained about the game having "too many cutscenes"? Yeah, he gave MGS4 a 10. gamesjournalismlol

[talonmalon333]

To be fair, Resident Evil 5 was received pretty well by the masses. Almost everyone thought it was inferior to 4, but only hardcore RE fans outright disliked it.

I'd like to add that I think RE5 was a good game. I enjoyed it, but it was less than RE4 and 1-3.

[Foggle]

I'd like to add that I think RE5 was a good game. I enjoyed it, but it was less than RE4 and 1-3.

None of the main series REs are bad. I may hate on certain aspects of 5, CV, and 0, but they're still great games, just not my cup of tea. I have complete confidence that RE6 will be very good, though obviously not something everyone will enjoy (much like the aforementioned titles).

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

And the guy from GameSpot who complained about the game having "too many cutscenes"? Yeah, he gave MGS4 a 10. gamesjournalismlol

To be fair I think he mentioned MGS4 in his review, saying that in that game the difference was that the cutscenes were long but less frequent and didn't interrupt the gameplay as much (and could be completely skipped, as well). With RE6 I think he was complaining more about the way that cutscenes constantly interrupted the flow the game and they can't be skipped in this game because they are usually tied down to QTEs.

That said, Kevin Van Ord has always come off to me as a poor replacement for Greg Kasavin. For those of you who don't know, Greg was basically the last good reviewer on GameSpot until he left the site a few years ago. He was always professional about his reviews, never got too touchy on anything, and his scores always seemed fair, and he spent more time telling you about how the game worked and detailing it so that you could see for yourself whether you like it or not. Most reviewers today (including this one), make the mistake of affirming their opinion on the game and once they make their stance they are determined to convince you that their opinion is right and make their whole review pretty one-sided, either painting the game out to be bad, mediocre, or good, with very little mixture of good and bad points to criticize about it. Greg, on the other hand, was always focused on letting giving you the info you needed to know whether the game was for you or not. His score and the overall opinion he had on a game were always in the afterthought of his actual review.

[talonmalon333]

I do hope RE6 isn't just essentially a collection of sub-games that can be played in a better format in any many other games.

Since I have other games I still need to play, I'll probably wait on getting this one. Maybe I'll hold off until the PC port comes out and then weigh the advantages of each version.

[Foggle]

I do hope RE6 isn't just essentially a collection of sub-games that can be played in a better format in any many other games.

I've talked to a lot of folks who actually own the game on GameFAQs. Each campaign is similar in mechanics, but different in execution. Leon's and Ada's are more like RE4, while Chris' and Jake's are more like RE5. From what I hear, they're all pretty good, but Ada's is widely regarded as the best, and many seem to think that Chris' is the weak link, though not by a whole lot.

[Eddy]

My copy came in today but I'll have to wait until tonight to play it. I'm excited and nervous based on everything I've heard. Hope it's good!

[Spark Of Spirit]

Let us know what you think!

[Foggle]

I've played one chapter of Chris' campaign and one chapter of Jake's so far.

First of all, outside of the Prelude level (which is more of an interactive cutscene than anything), I haven't seen a single QTE aside from the demo's boss finisher and another at the end of Jake's first level. Those two are pretty goddamn horrible, though, as you don't have nearly enough time to complete them unless you know they're coming and exactly which buttons to press.

Chris' level was quite fun aside from one particular scene that was kind of stupid. Not hard or frustrating, just dumb. You'll know when you get there. His campaign is also very challenging, even on Normal (for me). Item conservation is actually a thing in this game, unlike RE5, Revelations, and post-1-1 RE4.

Jake's level was better, and then it was worse. The majority of Jake's Chapter 1 is fantastic, very exciting and frantic. The crossover with Chris' campaign doesn't fare as well, but it's the end of the level that truly sucks. Do you like broken set-pieces, tedious rail-shooting, and QTEs that requires lightning reflexes? I sure as hell don't.

While you do have to conserve ammo and herbs far more than in previous modern REs, this one is definitely a straight-up shooter. About 75% of the enemies I fought in these levels had guns... including the mutated spiders, which made me laugh a bit. The atmosphere is good and sometimes the enemies will surprise you, but I definitely wouldn't call this a horror game (yet). It's very fun so far, and definitely better than 5, but that's not exactly saying much. I was only really expecting Leon's and Ada's campaigns to impress, though.

I'll be playing Leon's first chapter either today or tomorrow, if all goes well.