Meaning, which ones have you completely given up on?
Me? Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry and Max Payne. They are deader than Elvis to me.
Let's see, I half agree with GSF on Ninja Gaiden, as I have next to no faith in Hayashi's abilities to make a good NG game on his own (also, most of the so-called "better changes" that the guy claims will improve the series seems to be his way of saying that he wants to make it into a cheap God of War clone, or something even far worse than that). Still, a small part of me hopes that he can prove me wrong, but I've already learned my lesson from NGS2, and I won't expect much from NG3 when that comes out.
As for the DMC reboot, I haven't seen any gameplay so I can't be unfair and say that it will suck on those grounds, but just like everyone else I absolutely detest the new Dante and think that this whole "DMC needs to be more western" ideal is complete BS. I found the series to already be more than western enough, and don't see how making Dante look like an emo meth-addict really makes him more appealing at all. Also, DMC needs to have good combat, and I have yet to see a game made by Ninja Theory with a level of combat even close to that seen in DMC (or even freaking God of War, for that matter).
As for Max Payne, I don't even know anymore of MP3 is ever going to happen, and if it did I probably wouldn't like the new theme and story direction that its going in, but if the gameplay was still fun I would still play it. That said, since I haven't heard anything about the sequel in over 2 years, now, you could say that the series is pretty much dead in terms of the fact that it probably won't be ever getting a sequel, period.
As for other video game series, I can't really think of any off the top of my head. Well....I guess Halo is pretty dead, if you think about it. I know that they will make more inevitable sequels or spin-off games in the franchise, but without Bungie it will probably just end up turning into another Call of Duty clone, so I really have no more interest in that franchise, to be honest.
A while ago I would have said that Sonic was dead to me, but apparently Colors is supposed to be really good or something like that....so....
Well to me, that DMC reboot trailer has killed the series several times over. :> I have little faith in any NG sequels and unless Remedy comes back to Max Payne, it's dead to me.
I see you guys haven't seen the recent EDGE scans about Max Payne 3 (http://www.rockstarbase.com/2011/04/03/edge-max-payne-3-scans-reveal-new-information-and-screenshots/). Shit looks and sounds fucking awesome and I feel bad for dissing Rockstar when it was first announced.
Painkiller stands out as probably the only amazing series that's truly killed itself for me in released game form (Ninja Gaiden 3 and DmC aren't out yet). Sure, Overdose was bad, but Resurrection was mindbogglingly terrible. That game is so horrifically insipid that it actually made me physically angry. Ugh.
Scans look good. Still pissed about cover though.
Metal Gear since I preferred the simpler overhead gameplay and story, and they refuse to make one without 'Solid' in the title for whatever reason.
Probably Mega Man, since after Legends 3 the series will most likely drift off into obscurity.
There's few series that I outright gave up on, but Sonic was really close with the Heroes/Shadow/06 downhill plummet. If it wasn't for the promising Unleashed (The guy who invented the werehog idiocy is now at Square Enix, rejoice!) and the great handheld games in between Adventure 2 and Colors, I probably would have just given up.
Quote from: Desensitized on April 16, 2011, 01:23:54 PM
Metal Gear since I preferred the simpler overhead gameplay and story, and they refuse to make one without 'Solid' in the title for whatever reason.
"Solid" refers to the 3D graphics.
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2011, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on April 16, 2011, 01:23:54 PM
Metal Gear since I preferred the simpler overhead gameplay and story, and they refuse to make one without 'Solid' in the title for whatever reason.
"Solid" refers to the 3D graphics.
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The 'Solid' moniker never leaves. :'(
Quote from: Desensitized on April 16, 2011, 02:38:16 PM
The 'Solid' moniker never leaves. :'(
Well, fuck.
Speaking of Ghost Babel, that game was GREAT! :joy:
Legends 3?
Yeah, it was. I love overhead Metal Gear games a lot, which is why I'm disappointed that they don't seem to make them anymore. Especially on handhelds. :(
Mega Man Legends 3, dude. 3DS.
Crash Bandicoot Crash entered a bit of a slump since Naughty Dog gave up the rights to Universal. I'd say that Crash Twinsanity was the only post-ND game from the series that I enjoyed. It was pretty close to the formula at hand and it had a decent looking bunch of characters. Crash of the Titans was... something else. It didn't feel like a Crash game at all. It felt like that someone at the studio had an original idea, but at the last second decided to make it a Crash Bandicoot game. That and the redesigns. Dear god, don't get me started on how godawful these redesigns are.
Crash Bandicoot. The Naughty Dog games will forever have a special place in my heart for being my earliest 3D platformers and PSX games, but everything afterward is either forgettable or complete garbage.
Spyro the Dragon. Just like Crash, the original trilogy, while extremely dated, are still playable. The stuff afterward is downright embarrassing, and Kotick's latest cash grab is completely insulting and infuriating.
Sonic the Hedgehog. Sorry to admit it, but I pretty much lost all interest in his series after Heroes, and despite trying Rush, Unleashed and the Advance games, I just can't get into it anymore. I might give Anniversary a try, but honestly I'm not feeling compelled to try it.
I think I'll prematurely throw in Silent Hill into this pile. Have you seen the latest game? It looks like Heavy Rain with forced multiplayer. What the fuck is wrong with these developers handing off franchises to no-name studios and telling them to go nuts? It hasn't worked all generation and it won't start now.
What killed Heroes for me was the physics. Like, wonky doesn't even begin to describe them. Then there's the levels that are like WAY too long... No idea what they were thinking on that one. But did you try Colors? I know I talk about it a lot, but that's because I really liked it.
Yeah, the new Silent Hill is looking lame. Though I would like to hear Foggle's take on that one.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 20, 2011, 01:59:43 AM
I think I'll prematurely throw in Silent Hill into this pile. Have you seen the latest game? It looks like Heavy Rain with forced multiplayer.
What are you talking about? http://www.destructoid.com/no-silent-hill-multiplayer-says-downpour-producer-196898.phtml
That aside, how, exactly, does this game look like Heavy Rain? Because it rains for the majority of the game? Does Max Payne 2 look like Heavy Rain now?
Game seems fine to me from the screenshots and trailer I've seen. Which is more than I could say for Shattered Memories and Homecoming at a similar point in time.
Ah, cool. I think it came from that Game Informer article a while ago, it mentioned something about multiplayer and it just seemed like a really dumb idea. I haven't really kept up with news of the game though.
The Heavy Rain thing comes from how it doesn't really strike me as survival horror, but more story driven I guess. I'm just jumping to conclusions on that one though, especially since from the summary I remembered, it had nothing to do with the past towns or characters.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 20, 2011, 09:05:25 PM
The Heavy Rain thing comes from how it doesn't really strike me as survival horror, but more story driven I guess. I'm just jumping to conclusions on that one though, especially since from the summary I remembered, it had nothing to do with the past towns or characters.
Ah, I see what you mean now. When I think of Heavy Rain, I think of awkward controls and people turning a terrible movie into a somewhat cool video game, not story-over-gameplay focus. :lol:
Sorry about being kind of a dick in my previous post.
TMNT until Ubisoft loses the rights, also. They've only ever made one good game (The GBA one) every other one has been abysmal. While Konami's games last gen were average to bleh, they at least tried to make competent games despite never matching up to their classic arcade and console games. Ubisoft just sucks.
:wth: TMNT does not count.
What doesn't count? The series or the line of games?
Either way they used to be good, and now they're crap.
While it's not dead, I do fear for Resident Evil. Looking at all the games they have released and are releasing since 2005, I feel like Capcom just doesn't know what it wants to do with the series. I like the recent games, but not as much as I used to. RE1 and RE2 are definitely my favorites.
Does that mean I lack faith in the series? No. It's in my top 5 and I'll probably always follow it.
Star Fox. It hasn't had a good game since Star Fox 64. I'll admit I kind of liked Adventures, but a Star Fox game it was not. I fucking hated Assault. The Star Fox minigame in WarioWare: Smooth Moves was better than Assault. And now what we have to look forward to is a port of Star Fox 64, which is great and all and I plan on getting it when I eventually get a 3DS, but if I really want to play Star Fox 64 again I can pop it in my N64. How about a NEW Star Fox game that captures what made Star Fox 64 so amazing?
Quote from: Eddy on July 07, 2011, 02:41:35 AM
I fucking hated Assault.
FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME! Assault was garbage. The Arwing levels weren't bad, but they couldn't compare to the stuff from 64, and they were only 1/3 of the game. The rest was horrifically bad.
Quote from: Foggle on July 07, 2011, 09:46:15 AMFINALLY, SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME! Assault was garbage. The Arwing levels weren't bad, but they couldn't compare to the stuff from 64, and they were only 1/3 of the game. The rest was horrifically bad.
My sentiments exactly. Whenever I reached a new stage in Assault it was disappointing to find out it was going to be another clunky, clumsy, third-person shooter on-foot mission. Which it more often than not was. Ugh.
The only good thing Assault had going for it, aside from the Arwing stages which we just alright, was the soundtrack. And that's mostly because the soundtrack was just orchestrated music from Star Fox 64.
Quote from: Desensitized on April 22, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
What doesn't count? The series or the line of games?
Either way they used to be good, and now they're crap.
It's a license not a game series
They need to let Treasure make a Star Fox game. After Sin & Punishment 2, there is no better team to handle it.
Quote from: gunswordfist on July 07, 2011, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Desensitized on April 22, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
What doesn't count? The series or the line of games?
Either way they used to be good, and now they're crap.
It's a license not a game series
Same difference to me.
Loved how you have Treasure and tmnt in one sentence. Guess what I still want?
I'll admit; I actually loved Adventures. It was a fun, action-adventure title, and I thought it was kinda cool to see these characters in a new light. The graphics were absolutely beautiful, as well; it's a damn fine looking game all around. But yeah, you are right about one thing; a Star Fox game that simply was not.
...and unfortunately though, I do also kinda blame it for what we got with Assault. Now that Fox wasn't officially restricted to the cockpit of an Arwing, I guess they figured it was fair game for he and his buddies to run around and shoot stuff now. Or something; I dunno. I didn't really care for Assault either, though.
You Star Fox fans that love 64... You did play Sin & Punishment 2, right? If not, GO FUCKING DO THAT! Seriously brilliant game, and one of this gen's best.
As much as I view Assault and Command as completely and utterly inferior to 64, I do think they have better multiplayer modes. 64's multiplayer mode just seemed boring.
I actually haven't played Sin & Punishment 2. I should probably pick that up one of these days, but I need to take care of some games in my backlog first.
Quote from: Eddy on July 07, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
I actually haven't played Sin & Punishment 2. I should probably pick that up one of these days, but I need to take care of some games in my backlog first.
By all means do that first, but if anyone out there loves the Star Fox formula, play S&P2 and join the Treasure cult with me and GSF.