Games where you beat people up while approaching your goal of beating bigger people up.
Gaming at it's most simplistic, but IMO, at it's most engaging. The genre was at it's peak in popularity in the arcades back in the 90s thanks to devs like Technos, Konami, and Capcom, but has been mostly left for dead since.
What are some of your favorites?
Oh yeah, Turtles in Time, Simpsons Arcade, X-Men Arcade, and so on and so forth. That new Scott Pilgrim game was a good effort at a revival as well, although I guess some people didn't like how glitchy it was.
God Hand, baby, God Hand. Best beat 'em up -- nay, best GAME -- ever.
I absolutely love beat 'em ups; Streets of Rage, Double Dragon, Turtles In Time, 'n all that. I love 'em in 2D, I love 'em in 3D. I love 'em in single plane, I love 'em with multiple planes. Hack 'n slash? I love those, too. People say this kind of game gets repetitive after 5 minutes, but I have to disagree completely. Gimme' a couple combos and a couple hundred enemies and that's all I need to waste away an afternoon.
Shank is probably the best beat 'em up released in the past couple years (I bought it twice, in fact!). I've also been playing River City Ransom a lot recently. Such a classic.
I'm praying to my God desperately that Guardian Heroes gets a remake on XBLA/PSN. That's the one beat em up I've always wanted to play but never could because of how hard it is to acquire.
SNES, arcade, or DLC remake?
I always thought if TMNT3 got a remake in the Turtles In Time engine, it would easily be one of the best beat em ups ever.
The beat-em-up genre is one of my all time favorites. As far as the 2D games go, my favorites are Turtles in Time, The Simpsons arcade beat-em-up, the entire Streets for Rage trilogy, and Comix Zone (even though I never got to beat it). I also enjoyed the X-Men arcade beat-em-up game, and I'd probably love the Double Dragon games if I had gotten the opportunity to play more of them more often.
As far as 3D beat-em-ups go, I always wanted to play God Hand, but I still haven't gotten the chance to. As it stands, my favorite 3D beat-em-up game is Ninja Gaiden Black, which falls in the hack n' slash sub-genre. Some people would say that those don't count as beat-em-up games, but on the contrary they essentially are the same thing as any beat-em-up game....except with more emphasis on "slashing" than, you know, actual "beating" of things. :P
I also love what I've gotten to play of Bayonetta, which is my 2nd favorite 3D beat-em-up game (once again, I only consider hack n' slash to merely be a sub-genre that belongs to the beat-em-up genre).
Yeah, hack 'n slash games are basically beat 'em ups but with swords instead of fists.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 28, 2010, 07:05:22 PM
The Simpsons arcade beat-em-up
Oh god yes yes yes!! I used to play that motherfucker for hours at Chuck E. Cheese. One of five games I've ever gotten my dad to play with me. :joy: :joy:
Has anyone played Super Double Dragon? I played it on co-op with a friend, and while it wasn't a perfect game, I was really impressed by its combat system, which I find to be something that was pretty advanced and deep for its own time. You could probably make the argument that Double Dragon is the series that evolved the beat-em-up genre, and introduced the concept of depth to the combat system, beyond just mashing buttons. Its the oldest game that I've played that features a lot of stuff beyond just the ability to block, like countering and picking up and throwing items and such. I haven't played River City Ransom, so maybe that and older games started some of that stuff before, but I'm pretty sure DD invented some useful tropes in the genre of its own, that are still probably used to day in some form.
Super Double Dragon is surprisingly good despite being an unfinished game. Return Of (the Japanese version) is slightly better since it has a bit more finished, but either way it's a good beat em up. Double Dragon Advance is even better, though. It's easily the best combat system in a 2D beat em up. So many options, yet it still remains simple and fun.
I like Scott Pilgrim one, even if Ubisoft is filled with douchebags and won't update this game for 360 users. They should be glad that I like Assassin's Creed series so much, otherwise I wouldn't be playing their games. As for my favorite game of all, The Simpsons Arcade game is one that I really want to see be rereleased in one way, shape or form. I've also been playing the X-men Arcade game since it came out on Xbox Live, and right now, my favorite character to use in that is a tie between Storm and Nightcrawler. I tried getting into a game with 5 other people, and we were able to get to Magneto, and get both of the 6 player achievements. Life is good.
So you finally got the achievement? Good. :thumbup:
X-Men is a surprisingly good beat em up. For a 6 player game, the balance in challenge is surprisingly well tuned.
Yep, I got all the achievements, even though I heard that one with Mystique is kind of glitched, but I heard that's mostly for people that join a game in progress, and I just happened to find a game that was still in the lobby, I was player 4 thanks to that, and chose Storm. Yeah, I love how they bombard you with more baddies on the screen if you have more than 1 player in a game. Really, the best fun with this game is if you manage to get 6 people in a game, or hell, even 2. I find this game more fun if you have more than 1 person on the screen for reasons like more baddies and a better chance to screw around. Though due to the new rerelease of this, I always have the urge to use my mutant power. It doesn't help that when I waste a life in this game, I don't have to put in an extra quarter, and I can just continue with what I was doing.
Also, yesterday I got the achievement for beating the game with all 6 X-Men, turns out the mutant I didn't beat the game with was Cyclopes.
The Simpsons, Turtles in Time, X-Men, and those Golden Axe games where you can mount a beast and tail trip enemies.
I tried out Marvel Ultimate Alliance over Thanksgiving. That looked kind of fun.
The Scott Pilgrim game finally got the Knives Chau DLC for the Xbox 360, yet I tried playing the game earlier, and it still fucking frozed on me. Dammit Ubisoft, you were supposed to fix that.
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 29, 2010, 04:40:14 PM
The Scott Pilgrim game finally got the Knives Chau DLC for the Xbox 360, yet I tried playing the game earlier, and it still fucking frozed on me. Dammit Ubisoft, you were supposed to fix that.
UbiSoft is lame like that.
Somewhere in UbiSoft HQ...
Employee 1: Even when we delay our PC versions for half a year, people still buy them!
Employee 2: This is a problem. What can we do?
1: Hmm...
2: Hmmm...
1: Hmmmm...
2: I know! Why don't we force people to be connected to the internet at all times and have a broadband connection to play our
single-player games!?
1: My god, you're a genius...
I'd probably be more pissed off at Ubisoft's incompetency if I actually gave a shit about any of their games. But as it stands the only property they have that really peaks me interest is Prince of Persia. Well, I'd also like to play Scott Pilgrim, but I'll be honest and say that I was kind of disappointed by what I'd played of it. I'm not sure why, but I just didn't find it that entertaining. It wasn't bad at all, but nothing about it really stood out to me after I got past the admittedly good art design and graphics.
Well, they did make Red steel 2, but since that probably won't ever get a sequel, fuck 'em.
I got X-Men after Christmas, but I keep ignoring it in favor of Pac-Man Championship Edition DX. Played it a few times with my brother though, and the later stages are ridiculously hard, especially since I main Colossus who gets fucked over by those guys on scooters.
I'm also now reminded I never finished MadWorld and should go back to that one.
Pac Man's got a beat-em-up? That would improve things. :sly:
We're back on Prince of Persia the Forgotten Sands (Wii version). I got called in to help with some boss combat, but my gamer skills suck. Well at least Ubisoft's adaptation of King Kong was pretty good, but their Circus Games did not impress.
Man, just playing the X-Men Arcade demo makes me want to buy that next. It aged perfectly, I like how much space there is and the way the robots break apart across the screen is great. No cheaply animated deaths there.
TMNT (arcade), TMNT III, Simpsons, Sengoku 3, RoDD, Final Fight, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, and Streets of Rage 2 are all tops in my book.
Holy shit. (http://www.destructoid.com/river-city-ransom-2-is-a-thing-coming-this-summer-196701.phtml)
"And it was good."
Fucking took long enough. Now we need a new Double Dragon and I'm ready to call this the best gen ever.
So, did anybody see the HVGN's review of the new Splatterhouse game? I thought it was a pretty fair review compared to the mainstream critics out there, and I did agree with most of his points on the gameplay from the 2 hours or so that I got to play of it when my friend rented it (though its only fair to point out that my friend himself hated it). I do think that it gets off to a bad start but that was only for the first hour or so, as I was really getting into the game a little later on, and its true that I don't like button mashers but this game deserves some credit for actually rewarding you for playing more skillfully, even though its not totally necessary like it is in other action games like this (in that regard I think the HVGN made it out to be a bit more skill-based with its combat than it really is, as you actually can still get away with a fair amount of button mashing in later fights as well, contrary to what he said....but then again maybe he's talking about MUCH later in the game, but my friend had gotten half-way into it, so I tried the beginning of the game on a new file and then tried his file to see what the game was like in the middle, and I still found that it wasn't that challenging). The game does have some poor design flaws and glitches but even NG2 had those and got away with it (which is weird, since that's the one thing I DIDN'T see NG2 criticized for, despite that complaint actually being true as opposed to most of the others).
Still, the game is still style over substance, and its not bound to be a true classic or anything like that, so personally from what I've played it seems like it would make a perfect rental rather than a full-on purchase (even at a used price).
And, I still find it hard to believe that some critics could give a game like Ninja Blade a fairly decent score yet treat this game as crap despite the fact that NB had pretty stale gameplay whereas Splatterhouse's combat was actually kind of fun to a degree (keep in mind that I'm one of those people who doesn't really hate NB, but rather I just don't personally care for it; and BTW calling it an NG rip-off, which is not, is something I considered to be an insult to NG in and of itself).
Part of the issue also comes with the fact that Splatterhouse had a messy development life. Bottle Rocket originally was making the game and apparently fucked it up so bad that they had to get another studio to salvage it, and in the process added the sidescrolling sections and threw off the pacing because it wasn't built from scratch and rushed for a deadline. Namco really shouldn't have rushed this as hard as they did.
I think if they simply scrapped Bottle Rocket's crappy work and started over from square one, it would probably have been a smoother experience.
Quote from: Desensitized on March 18, 2011, 11:47:09 PM
"And it was good."
Fucking took long enough. Now we need a new Streets Of Rage and I'm ready to call this the best gen ever.
fixed
I'll take both, actually.
But only if Koshiro does the music for it.
Agreed. What's he up to these days?
Like beat em ups? Get the FINAL version of the Streets Of Rage Remake (http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_project/) that is out now. It is packed with content, insanely fun, and better than anything Sega has done with the series since SoR3.
Glorious soundtrack is amazing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OcqCm1vouU)
The only quibbles I find is the lack of 4 player (2 only, unfortunately) and online, but everything else is pretty much anything you could want out of a SoR game.
Man they've really overhauled it since Version 3.0. Its practically a different game.
Yeah, it was kind of a shock. Personally, I'm just glad they seem to have it all nailed down now. SoR3 system with a SoR1/2 soundtrack and atmosphere is the perfect beat em up combo.
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 31, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Agreed. What's he up to these days?
Still the man. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7kEmyvlYc)
FUCK I want that game localized.
Well there's always a certain classic action rpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDm9LaJeN9w&feature=related) series available for choice Yuzo.
Currently playing through the PSP version of it right now. I still kind of prefer the TG16 version, though. I'm not sure what it is, something seems missing.
But anyway, as for BEUs, SoRR seems to have some crazy branching paths. They really show you the amount of care went into this game. Though I'm not sure what to buy in the shop with my points, all the options look pretty good.
http://www.destructoid.com/sega-has-streets-of-rage-remake-pulled-from-the-net-198671.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/sega-has-streets-of-rage-remake-pulled-from-the-net-198671.phtml)
Fuck Sega. In. The. Ass.
I heard about that. Sigh.
Worst part is I remember hearing that several years ago Yuzo Koshiro asked to make a SoR4 and Sega said no. Geez, if you aren't even going to use your properties, why the fuck do you care?
(PS: If anyone wants this FREEWARE game, PM me and I'll see what I can do. ;))
Quote from: Desensitized on April 05, 2011, 01:06:26 AM
Like beat em ups? Get the FINAL version of the Streets Of Rage Remake (http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_project/) that is out now. It is packed with content, insanely fun, and better than anything Sega has done with the series since SoR3.
Glorious soundtrack is amazing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OcqCm1vouU)
The only quibbles I find is the lack of 4 player (2 only, unfortunately) and online, but everything else is pretty much anything you could want out of a SoR game.
That looks great. I wonder if this is the same SoR Remake I saw a video o awhile ago. IDK.
Quote from: Desensitized on April 05, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 31, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Agreed. What's he up to these days?
Still the man. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7kEmyvlYc)
FUCK I want that game localized.
:o Good to see that he's still the best.
Quote from: Desensitized on April 12, 2011, 02:50:44 PM
I heard about that. Sigh.
Worst part is I remember hearing that several years ago Yuzo Koshiro asked to make a SoR4 and Sega said no. Geez, if you aren't even going to use your properties, why the fuck do you care?
(PS: If anyone wants this FREEWARE game, PM me and I'll see what I can do. ;))
Shit, I was just going to say that I'm sure some random guy on the internet would have it.
Quote from: Desensitized on December 28, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Super Double Dragon is surprisingly good despite being an unfinished game. Return Of (the Japanese version) is slightly better since it has a bit more finished, but either way it's a good beat em up. Double Dragon Advance is even better, though. It's easily the best combat system in a 2D beat em up. So many options, yet it still remains simple and fun.
I want to play Double Dragon games more than anything right now.
Oh and some random guy on the internet hooked me up with Streets Of Rage remake. I'll actually download it some other time.
Dalek, just want to say your list was hilarious. Good stuff. :happytime:
^Yeah if you're going to download MAME to just play one game... don't make it Brute Force. I swear to god its the most miserable broken thing I have ever experienced.
Yeah, that was a pretty good list, though to be honest I haven't even heard of half of those games to begin with. That Ninja Gaiden arcade game was seriously annoying with its enemies, though, since they could initiate a combo on you whenever they wanted (of course, it was easy as hell to be cheap in that game as well if you just spammed the throw move, but that was boring as hell). Of course, I've only ever played the emulated version of that game as an unlockable for beating Ninja Gaiden Black (on the XBOX) on hard mode, so I'm not sure if there is any differences in this port from the game on an original arcade machine that it would have run on. Still, its easily the worst "main" NG game out there (I don't count any of the Sega spin-off games as main games, though to be honest they weren't that bad at all, from what I remember of them).
Yeah naturally when discussing 80s arcade games there's gonna be a load of titles you've never heard of because they weren't widespread or didn't get console ports or something else. I have being a Mame user for almost 15 years to blame for my knowledge of a lot of this crud.
For the interest of those who care... the rest of the epic trilogy
The Worst Console Beat-em-ups I have played (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=283106)
The Best Beat-em-ups I have played (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=283497)
I always love reading articles about terrible video games. :joy: Nice job!
And before I even read your section on it, I was already thinking THEY MADE A VIDEO GAME OFF OF COOL WORLD?!? :lol:
If you guys are looking for good beat em ups, you should totally play all of the ones in his best list. There's a lot of gold in there.
Quote from: Foggle on June 16, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
And before I even read your section on it, I was already thinking THEY MADE A VIDEO GAME OFF OF COOL WORLD?!? :lol:
Its about as unplayable as any old vhs of that movie!
I've been meaning to get Shadow Force and Streets Of Rage remake
Quote from: Desensitized on December 28, 2010, 06:05:42 PM
SNES, arcade, or DLC remake?
I always thought if TMNT3 got a remake in the Turtles In Time engine, it would easily be one of the best beat em ups ever.
That would be freak'n amazing. Especially if it had 4 player local and online.
My sig has made me think that a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game with playable Master Splinter and Casey Jones with 6 player co-op a la X-Men Arcade would be hot damn good. Let Casey have multiple sports equipment and the ability to switch them with the press of a button right off the bat (Yeah, I went there :sly: ) and a knockback move strong enough to send a teenage sized turtle flying and I am never switching characters. Hell, games for that matter. A Turtles Forever angle would also be perfect. Fuck, I need to make this game myself
Good luck with that. Ubisoft has yet to make more than one quality game with the license or more than one game that isn't just crap.
Quote from: Desensitized on June 29, 2011, 11:00:43 PM
Good luck with that. Ubisoft has yet to make more than one quality game with the license or more than one game that isn't just crap.
I forgot to say, I want Treasure to make it
Hey Lord Dalek, what are your thoughts on this (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?287016-Renegade-3DS-Announced&p=3905724#post3905724)?
I'm personally intrigued how this might go.
I can't wait to download the Streets Of Rage remake.
I download a fan translated version of Streets Of Rage 3 and just beat the first level. They censored the hell out of that game. It was funny seeing Skate tell Shiva "Come back here, you bastard." :D And of course the plot is completely different as advertised and the game is much easier. (Yeah, only one man with a gun)
Quote from: Desensitized on September 07, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
Hey Lord Dalek, what are your thoughts on this (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?287016-Renegade-3DS-Announced&p=3905724#post3905724)?
I'm personally intrigued how this might go.
Even though they're using the RCR style Kunio instead of Renegade version, it'd take a lot to make me happy. That game just sucks soooo much.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on January 02, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on September 07, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
Hey Lord Dalek, what are your thoughts on this (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?287016-Renegade-3DS-Announced&p=3905724#post3905724)?
I'm personally intrigued how this might go.
Even though they're using the RCR style Kunio instead of Renegade version, it'd take a lot to make me happy. That game just sucks soooo much.
Now there's footage of the demo out there (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=171351)
It looks like they took Renegade and put it in the RCR engine. Here's hoping the final product shows well, I'd love to be able to play a good version of Renegade.
Remember when I said Battletoads is a case study in torture?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pERNUuCRdJ8&feature=related - this goes on for four hours people. :shakeshakeshake:
That "game" was made by Satan himself. I thought the turbo tunnel was bad enough, but apparently the stuff that comes after it is far worse. This video is both hilarious and mortifying.
This is probably the only game in the world where playing 2 players is harder than playing alone.
I litterally do not believe there is a way to beat Battletoads (especially not with two players) without the use of save states or cheat codes. Can't be done.
EDIT: And Michael24, as well as being a tasteless shithead, is a dirty fucking liar. (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?283106-Lord-Dalek-s-quot-The-20-Worst-Console-Beatemups-I-Have-Ever-Played-quot-List-Thread&p=3856189&viewfull=1#post3856189)
I could second that; I've never beaten it. Never even come
close for that matter.
...of course, I basically packed it in and gave up years ago. My sanity comes first, obviously.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on February 09, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
EDIT: And Michael24, as well as being a tasteless shithead, is a dirty fucking liar. (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?283106-Lord-Dalek-s-quot-The-20-Worst-Console-Beatemups-I-Have-Ever-Played-quot-List-Thread&p=3856189&viewfull=1#post3856189)
:srs:
I made it up to the snake part and I just gave up. It's not that it was hard, it was just frustrating part after frustrating part. After got to the snake I was just wondering why I wasn't instead playing something fun with my time.
I just got done getting Violent Storm to work and Growl, Golden Axe Revenge Of Death Adder (and Metal Slug 5) before that. I finally got around to that after being encouraged by stumbling apon an article about Growl's final boss. :o
QuoteMuch like with Contra, I was surprised years later to read about peoples' frustration with Battletoads, to the point of declaring it one of the most aggravating games ever to play. I'm sure my first few plays weren't great, but once I got it down it was a game I was able to beat regularly.
I believe him about Contra because, you know, that game's actually
fair. Battletoads? He's talking out of his ass on that one.
Yeah, I watched that whole play-through up the last video which got uploaded yesterday (glad to see that ProtonJon won, if only because he's the only LP'er that I've ever bothered watching....because he did the NES Ninja Gaiden games :> ), and it was aggravating just to sit and watch how long it took any given player to get past just 1 single room.
Contra has the Konami code, Battletoads doesn't give you shit.
As far as Mike goes, I might be able to believe him if he said "beat once". Ok, so maybe he got lucky; it happens. I'm sure there are people that have beaten it by themselves, as few and far between as they are.
...but he's actually claiming that he could just pop in Battletoads at any time he wants, and beat it like nothing. I mean, seriously; give me a break. That has to be one of the most ridiculous, outright bald-faced lies I have ever heard.
Who exactly is he trying to impress here anyway?
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 02:09:30 PM
QuoteMuch like with Contra, I was surprised years later to read about peoples' frustration with Battletoads, to the point of declaring it one of the most aggravating games ever to play. I'm sure my first few plays weren't great, but once I got it down it was a game I was able to beat regularly.
I believe him about Contra because, you know, that game's actually fair. Battletoads? He's talking out of his ass on that one.
That guy from Seven Days couldn't beat Battletoads on the first few tries. This guy's fucking lying.
Unless you live and breath that game 24 hours a day, there's no way you can just pop it in and beat it. All it takes is one screw up and you're dead. The game has no margin for error.
Contra at least has the Spread Gun and the Konami code to cushion you.
My only thought is what he's talking about is Battletoads in Ragnarok's World (aka the game boy version) which doesn't come close to the NES difficulty.
Does anyone have any good beat-em-up recommendations of games available on either the SNES' or Sega Genesis' respective gaming libraries? I mean besides just the obvious ones like Turtles in Time or Streets of Rage. Possibly something somewhat obscure but still great.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 14, 2012, 08:48:02 PM
Does anyone have any good beat-em-up recommendations of games available on either the SNES' or Sega Genesis' respective gaming libraries? I mean besides just the obvious ones like Turtles in Time or Streets of Rage. Possibly something somewhat obscure but still great.
I'm not sure if it's really obvious or not, but have you played Golden Axe?
SNES
Captain Commando (the only port of the arcade game)
Sonic Blast Man II (the original is dull compared to this)
Brawl Brothers (Part 2 of the Rushing Beat Trilogy, and the best one)
Rival Turf! (Part 1 of the Rushing Beat Trilogy, and the least polished)
The Peacekeepers (Part 3 of the Rushing Beat Trilogy, and a fan favorite)
Final Fight 3 (If you haven't played it yet)
Battletoads In Battlemaniacs (I'm sure you've played it)
Death & Return Of Superman (It's not great, but you might enjoy it)
Knights Of The Round
Ninja Warriors
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie
Return Of Double Dragon/Super Double Dragon (Return is the better version as it is more complete)
As far as consoles go, this is the beat em up system.
Genesis
Alien Storm (kind-of a beat em up, it's weird but you might dig it)
The Punisher (only port of the arcade game)
Splatterhouse 2 (sort of a remake of the first game, a sidescroller)
Splatterhouse 3 (more traditional beat em up)
That's pretty much it. Other than the SoR and Golden Axe games, the beat em up genre isn't really heavily represented on the Genesis.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm familiar with some of those games that you listed, but there are definitely plenty in there which I have yet to try. When I get some free-time this weekend I'll look them up. ;)
Oh I forgot the Batman games.
SNES - Adventures Of Batman & Robin (part beat em up, part adventure game, part platformer... it's really hard)
Genesis - Adventures Of Batman & Robin (Action platformer and beat em up... REALLY hard)
SNES/Genesis - Batman Returns (sidescrolling beat em up)
NES - Batman (platformer... REALLY hard)
Game Boy - Batman (platformer... also difficult IIRC)
NES - Batman Return Of Joker (action platformer and REALLY hard)
If I recall correctly, every Batman game after this until Arkham Asylum is bad. But those are pretty good.
I haven't played the Sega CD Batman Returns or the Saturn Adventures game so I can't comment on those, but starting with Batman Forever they all became uniformly awful.
Oh yeah and there's also the Genesis Turtles: Hyperstone Heist which is a pseudo original Turtles beat em up... Kinda.
It's worth playing but it doesn't touch Turtles In Time.
Also, try out Comix Zone. It's a hard on player only single plane beat em up where every stage is a comic page and you have to go from panel to panel with the occassion path select within each page. I still can't beat my Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection copy of the game.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 14, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Oh I forgot the Batman games.
SNES - Adventures Of Batman & Robin (part beat em up, part adventure game, part platformer... it's really hard)
Genesis - Adventures Of Batman & Robin (Action platformer and beat em up... REALLY hard)
SNES/Genesis - Batman Returns (sidescrolling beat em up)
NES - Batman (platformer... REALLY hard)
Game Boy - Batman (platformer... also difficult IIRC)
NES - Batman Return Of Joker (action platformer and REALLY hard)
Thanks for those recommendations. Those are definitely worth checking out as well.
QuoteIf I recall correctly, every Batman game after this until Arkham Asylum is bad. But those are pretty good.
Well, IMO Vengeance certainly isn't a bad game, but its also kind of an aquired taste since the combat system sucks and some of the stealth can be frustrating. It still gets bonus points for successfully emulating the style of BTAS, though, as opposed to just feeling like another generic Batman game. It also has its moments, and unlike in the Arkham games, you can actually use some of Batman's vehicles.
Sega CD Batman Returns is the same game as the Genesis version with the addition of really hard and really choppy driving stages.
Favorite Streets Of Rage characters:
1. Blaze (SOR1)/Blaze(SOR1 SORRV5 version): Me likey the speed!
2. Adam (Streets Of Rage remake) I use him 99% of the time in the game. I love his combination of a good moveset and special weapon attacks. I also make Jet my bitch with his flying punch attack. So useful.
3. Axel (Streets Of Rage 2 & 3) The only character I use post-SOR1 in the console games.
4. Axel (SOR1)
Still need to sort out where I'd rank Shiva.
Double Dragon Neon is out.
I fully recommend playing it! The game is not fast, it's very deliberate like the old DD games, and all the moves are satisfying to pull off. the soundtrack is also phenomenal, the remixes and some of the new tunes are fabulous. In fact the theme for Mission 2 is excellent: Choose Mango Tango and let your ears melt. (http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/double-dragon-neon)
My only problem is the humor. It's not very Double Dragon and is WAY too over the top and hyper-ironic for my tastes aside from some simple physical gags. It feels like it's trying too hard to mock the 80s, and most of the humor feels much more Battletoads than Double Dragon.
That aside, if you're a beat em up fan, be sure to play it. It's not quite Double Dragon Advance excellent, but it's pretty great on its own merits.
Oh, I should also mention that IGN gave it a 3/10 because arcade games suck now.
So you know it's good!
I thought the next Double Dragon would be some unplayable ass from what you've been saying (I'm guessing it was another one..or even better, a canceled one)
Now let's let lightning strike a few more times and see Streets Of Rage 4 and an actual Megaman game.
Quote from: gunswordfist on September 12, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
I thought the next Double Dragon would be some unplayable ass from what you've been saying (I'm guessing it was another one..or even better, a canceled one)
There were two particularly awful looking DD2 remakes in the works and they both seem to have been canceled.
This one was made by WayForward, so 3D models aside, it's well worth playing.
DDA was DE-FIN-I-TIVE as far as Double Dragon goes in my opinion (seriously they devoted two pages in the manual to the crazy ass shit you could do in that game), so I doubt Wayforward can improve it any further.
This is more like a Parodius style tribute to Double Dragon and beat em ups in general. It's not as good as DDA, RODD, or DD2 NES but it's surprisingly fun.
And seriously, they nailed 80s arcades with the soundtrack. There's even one track that seems straight out of Violent Storm.
Apparently, two years later, Ubisoft is finally adding online play to the Scott Pilgrim game.
The hilarious thing is they expect you to pay $5 for it. (It includes Wallace as a playable character too but, come on. One character and a feature that should be a FREE update does not warrant $5. Fuck Ubisoft.)
Quote from: Eddy on September 13, 2012, 01:02:48 AM
Apparently, two years later, Ubisoft is finally adding online play to the Scott Pilgrim game.
:swoon:
QuoteThe hilarious thing is they expect you to pay $5 for it.
:wth:
Lovers of 80s music and beat em ups- listen to this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZNshBT0iUk)
I like that he wrote a legitimate 80s pop song instead of a slapdash parody song which makes it work really well with that late 80s early 90s feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIdgP7U44&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIdgP7U44&feature=player_embedded)
So that would be the... third Streets Of Rage game Sega has canceled.
I have no idea what they have against this franchise.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2012, 02:31:14 PM
So that would be the... third Streets Of Rage game Sega has canceled.
I have no idea what they have against this franchise.
Really?!
I played the demo to Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed today. I have no clue why Amy made the game and not Axel. What in the hell?!
By the way, apparently there's an eshop River City Ransom game coming to the 3DS:
Quote- coming from Arc System Works
- called Riki Densetsu,
- features Riki, usually your main rival, as the hero
- Riki is a former star player for the school soccer team
- Riki was suspended after half of his team was beaten up by a rival school before the big match
- Riki beat up a bunch of dudes for revenge
- Riki is now squaring off against Mushamonzen, a biker gang led by the tracksuit-wearing, slightly insane Okada
- side-scrolling
- features the same pudgy character designs
- due out in Japan on December 12th for 800 yen
It would be nice to actually get this one.
Devil May Cry 3
Devil May Cry 4
Ninja Gaiden Black
Ninja Gaiden 2
God of War 2
Shenmue
Beat em ups are my favorite type of game. If I'm not play SSF4 or UMvC3 you can find me playing one of these games. I don't really look for a challenge these days so I usually use these games to relieve some anger or stress (although, Warriors Orochi 3 and other forms of Dynasty Warrior games are currently quenching that). While I do have Bayonetta I've yet to get a chance to play it. Same can be said of God of War 3. Anyway, Devil May Cry 3 is the favorite of the bunch because I'm a sucker for cinemas, especially when they're flashy. And then the chance to play as Vergil, perhaps my favorite character in games.
As far as older titles go, I can hardly remember them.
Bad Dudes
Double Dragon
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Back in Time
i startee shadow force for the first time about an hour ago. i, of course, picked the ninja. i soon found out how awesome the controls are. like in comix zone, you can press up or down to do a high or low version of the 3 attack types your character has, which lead me to a lot of different combos. plus, unlike cz, this is a multi-plane beat em up, which makes it that much better. i suck at playing this on a computer though, especially with how i have the jump button placed. i have to get used to it.
List time:
Classic style beat em ups
1. Double Dragon Advance
2. Streets of Rage 2
3. Cadillacs & Dinosaurs
4. Battle Circuit
5. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time (SNES)
6. Violent Storm
7. Crime Fighters 2 / Vendetta
8. Sengoku 3
9. Double Dragon II (NES)
10. River City Ransom
11. Alien Vs. Predator
12. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: The Manhattan Project
13. Double Dragon Neon
14. Final Fight 3
15. Undercover Cops (Alpha Renewal)
16. Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder
17. The Simpsons
18. The Punisher
19. Armored Warriors
20. Metamorphic Force
21. Shadow Force
22. Dungeons and Dragons: Shadows Over Mystara
23. Final Fight (Arcade)
24. Double Dragon (Arcade)
25. Return of Double Dragon
26. X-Men
27. Bare Knuckle 3
28. Golden Axe (Arcade)
29. Batman Returns (SNES)
30. Growl
Great games that I can always manage to come back to.
I don't think I've ever heard of Battle Circuit, Metamorphic Force or Crime Fighters 2. Anyway, nice list.
Thanks. I added a few more entries to make it an even 30.
Still one of my favorite genres.
Great list! Lacking Power Rangers (SNES) and Power Rangers The Movie (Genesis), as well as Comix Zone, but great all the same.
I need to play more of those games.
There's still great stuff missing on it, yeah. The genre has a lot of great games despite so many people dogging on it all the time. I had to go back and make it 30 entries because I forgot some classics on there.
What makes the arcade version the best version for Golden Axe 1?
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 12, 2015, 12:33:32 AM
What makes the arcade version the best version for Golden Axe 1?
It's just a better quality than the Genesis version in every area. The Genesis version isn't bad or anything, just that the arcade one is the better of them.
It's really mostly critics that trash the genre. I think that there are still many who love and respect the genre. I remember Castle Crashers from last generation being a good tribute to classic beat 'em up games.
I think that some modern gamers miss the point of the genre, though. When people compare them to the hack n' slash action games of today, they fail to realize that they are two completely different genres with different aims. One is more about intricate fighting with adventure elements, whereas the other is about more immediately gratifying and simple action that is easy to pick up but just challenging enough to keep you playing for a solid half hour or more at a time. Beat-em-ups were designed to cater to a very different type of purpose for gamers, and the best games in the genre excel at that.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 12, 2015, 12:36:58 AM
It's really mostly critics that trash the genre. I think that there are still many who love and respect the genre. I remember Castle Crashers from last generation being a good tribute to classic beat 'em up games.
I think that some modern gamers miss the point of the genre, though. When people compare them to the hack n' slash action games of today, they fail to realize that they are two completely different genres with different aims. One is more about intricate fighting with adventure elements, whereas the other is about more immediately gratifying and simple action that is easy to pick up but just challenging enough to keep you playing for a solid half hour or more at a time. Beat-em-ups were designed to cater to a very different type of purpose for gamers, and the best games in the genre excel at that.
Yes, the IGN reviews for Double Dragon Neon and God Hand (a modern beat em up, but still) both completely miss the point of the genre. I don't recommend reading them, they are quite embarrassing.
They don't get that there are people that enjoy combat systems and enemy patterns all while playing what is essentially the plot of a Kung-fu flick for six to eight stages and then seeing the ending screen. People enjoy it because it's fun!
Other than "repetitiveness" (unless it's a cinematic cover-shooter or a boring fetch quest from a modern RPG, then it's a feature, not a bug!) the main complaint is length. My combined total for Double Dragon Neon and Hard Corps Uprising (another game criticized for length) is about 40 hours. That's more time than you'd spend playing through the single player from the last eight COD games. COMBINED.
Reminds me of a review posted a long time ago about a reviewer from a professional site (probably IGN, though Gamespot isn't any better) ripping apart a sports management sim for being a sports management sim. If you don't like the genre in the first place, then how do you suppose your complaints will inform anyone who does? It's just silly.
Favorite Beat 'em Up tracks:
1. Mission 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y_WQkTbYvc)
2. Fighting in the Street (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUcMFsp2vQ)
3. Moon Beach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkHjQMc5oiQ)
4. Roar of the Double Dragon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnO6t6q_mwo)
5. Advancing Toward Sunset (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3TOSZkwobA)
6. Go Straight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCaRxoZtDHI)
7. Technodrome ~ Let's Kick Shell! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5llZ83hLk)
8. Neon Jungle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZNshBT0iUk)
9. In the Bar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vwqEe3Nvk0)
10. Mission 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EryfZ_ulHCk)
11. 47th Street (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9vsBy3a8QM)
12. Bury My Shell At Wounded Knee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2HkPSNdsOc)
13. On the Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DanszYNmVto)
14. Alley Cat Blues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKmtjbzYRo)
15. Northern Barramundi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHlGesjHK0E)
16. Bridge of Danger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMLtBzQP9U)
17. Running Around the City (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z8f35MFYWs)
18. Stage 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAROptDRrUg) (Even bad games can have great tracks)
19. Downtown Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F37eqoP3rss%5B/url)
20. Who'll Be the Hero? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umJZVQEuBU0) (The most beat 'em up beat 'em up theme ever)
That was harder than the other list.
I feel sorry for you. That must have been tough. I'll check them out now. ;D
It was almost entirely made up of Yuzo Koshiro, TMNT, and Double Dragon tracks before I revised it.
Sounds about right. :D Just got done listening to Who'll Be The Hero. :thumbup:
I think I refeel in love with Northern Barramundi. :swoon:
"You're bad."
Whoa, a year old bump.
But for a good cause. Namely, THIS (http://gonintendo.com/stories/253877-river-city-ransom-sp-another-trailer-more-details)!
Look at that fighting system. Arc System Works clearly cares a good deal about both of their newly acquired franchises.
Well, that wasn't licensed (yet), but Arc System Works' remake of Renegade finally is. (http://tinycartridge.com/post/143168063527/kunio-returns-this-summer-in-river-city-tokyo) Should be interesting to see how much better it is than the original. It shouldn't be too difficult to top.