Favorite Games Ever (Besides Ninja Gaiden, Obviously)

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Well, GT usually gives a lot of Nintendo's big first-party releases 9's and above and such, like both of the SMG games, TP, SW, etc, so I don't think they hate Nintendo nearly as much as G4 obviously does, even if they are owned by the same company.

If GT's guilty of anything, its their unfair bias toward Sonic. Yes, Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic '06, and various other Sonic-related games from the past decade suck. No, that doesn't mean that all 3D Sonic games suck. They bashed the hell out of Sonic Adventure 2 and gave a low review score to Sonic Colors. They also recently bashed the hell out of Sonic 4 Episode 2 (but most critics bashed it), but their complaint was stupid. They seem to be under the delusion that Sonic is ONLY about speed and apparently in their memory the old Sonic games were only about running and occasionally jumping. They basically bashed the game because Tails was part of the game's mechanic. Mind you, they didn't even go into detail on whether it was a good or bad mechanic, they just said that it deviated from speed and thus it made the game bad, which is pitifully stupid logic and shows their clear and obvious hatred toward the series in general.

[Spark Of Spirit]

The Mario hate was mostly G4. Especially Morgan Webb.

Gametrailers' Colors review was so bad that people were tearing it apart, even on their site, for weeks. It was like IGN's Godhand or Sonic Unleashed review where they made the game look worse than it actually is.

I remember one part in their Unleashed review where he just randomly stood still then jumped off a cliff to demonstrate bad controls. Now, Unleashed doesn't have the best controls, but that was very disingenuous of them.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

The Mario hate was mostly G4. Especially Morgan Webb.

Have you seen their video review of SMG2? They gave the game a 5/5, and Morgan Webb voices the review, but you can sense how grudging her tone is in praising the game. Its clear that she didn't actually write the review and was forced to read it out. Its actually quite hilarious to watch it when you keep in mind that he has such an obvious disdain for all things Nintendo.

Gametrailers' Colors review was so bad that people were tearing it apart, even on their site, for weeks. It was like IGN's Godhand or Sonic Unleashed review where they made the game look worse than it actually is.

I remember one part in their Unleashed review where he just randomly stood still then jumped off a cliff to demonstrate bad controls. Now, Unleashed doesn't have the best controls, but that was very disingenuous of them.

Have you seen GT's list of the top 10 worst blockbuster games (or it was called something like that)? Their number 1 spot was every Sonic game since Adventure 2, which I suppose apparently includes the Advance and Rush games despite those getting more positive reviews than the 3D games, since they didn't clearly specify which ones they were talking about. That was just an embarrassing entry in the list since they clearly were just lashing out at every Sonic game from the last decade despite the fact that NOT every Sonic game sucked as much as they made the whole serious out to. Also, I'm curious to know why Sonic Adventure 1 even got the pass. Its not like that game didn't have mostly the same flaws that Sonic Adventure 2 had, but I guess because its before last decade they somehow treat it like one of the classics, which is just plain stupid (not to say that the game isn't good, though, as I still think its a good game, personally).

[Spark Of Spirit]

The Mario hate was mostly G4. Especially Morgan Webb.

Have you seen their video review of SMG2? The gave the game a 5/5, and Morgan Webb voices the review, but you can sense how grudgingly her tone is in praising the game. Its clear that she didn't actually write the review and was forced to read it out. Its actually quite hilarious to watch it when you keep in mind that he has such an obvious disdain for all things Nintendo.

Sorta like on IGN when after E3 2010 Daemon Hatfield said something like "I thought Nintendo had the worst conference." How can anyone even remotely think that? Sony had nothing and Microsoft was Kinect-fest with poorly running demos.

Gametrailers' Colors review was so bad that people were tearing it apart, even on their site, for weeks. It was like IGN's Godhand or Sonic Unleashed review where they made the game look worse than it actually is.

I remember one part in their Unleashed review where he just randomly stood still then jumped off a cliff to demonstrate bad controls. Now, Unleashed doesn't have the best controls, but that was very disingenuous of them.

Have you seen GT's list of the top 10 worst blockbuster games (or it was called something like that)? Their number 1 spot was every Sonic game since Adventure 2, which I suppose apparently includes the Advance and Rush games despite those getting more positive reviews than the 3D games, since they didn't clearly specify which ones they were talking about. That was just an embarrassing entry in the list since they clearly were just lashing out at every Sonic game from the last decade despite the fact that NOT every Sonic game sucked as much as they made the whole serious out to. Also, I'm curious to know why Sonic Adventure 1 even got the pass. Its not like that game didn't have mostly the same flaws that Sonic Adventure 2 had, but I guess because its before last decade they somehow treat it like one of the classics, which is just plain stupid (not to say that the game isn't good, though, as I still think its a good game, personally).

Which is even weirder considering they liked Generations. I dunno, this rabid hate of older stuff in the game industry confuses me. I guess because I'm more of a traditionalist who only likes new things that build on that proven foundation. I'm not an extreme "throw everything out and start from scratch" guy. I always say keep what works, fix what doesn't, and improve from there. Not the modern idea of "make everything look like a B-movie and give people less to do".

[Spark Of Spirit]

Wow, she sounds totally like she's grinding her teeth here.

I hadn't seen that in a while, but that is one terrible review. It tells you NOTHING about the game at all.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Yeah, you could tell her obvious hate for Mario in this review and that she's saying all of those things against her will. Its funny, because the first time I saw this review I kept thinking they'd end up giving this game a mediocre score because of how sarcastic her voice sounded. I mean, even when she was praising the game I still felt like she was bad-mouthing it under her breath like some sort of inside joke. She doesn't sound the least bit enthusiastic about the game at all which made it really funny when I saw her say 5/5 at the end, even though she herself clearly didn't agree with giving it that score. I mean, she didn't even TRY to sound convincing in that review.

[Avaitor]

Remember when girl gamers were a welcome anomaly and the few female gaming critics loved fun in their electronic experiences?

Wow has gaming changed in the past 10 years.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Remember when girl gamers were a welcome anomaly and the few female gaming critics loved fun in their electronic experiences?

Wow has gaming changed in the past 10 years.

Who would have thunk that so many girl geeks would turn out to be just as obnoxious as their male counterparts? Yay for equality? 

In all seriousness, the females in this industry are just as bad as the males.

[Avaitor]

I just mentioned that because I remember way back in the day a running joke in X-Play was about whether or not Morgan was actually a gamer. Nowadays we don't doubt that at all.

[Spark Of Spirit]

I just mentioned that because I remember way back in the day a running joke in X-Play was about whether or not Morgan was actually a gamer. Nowadays we don't doubt that at all.

7 years ago saying something like "It wasn't 3D enough" wouldn't be acceptable criticism, and now it is.

Next gen is going to cause a lot of meltdowns from these people.

[Foggle]

Stuff like this makes me glad that I usually stick to niche genres like stealth, horror, and beat 'em up.

And then it makes me sad that those are niche genres in the first place.

[Avaitor]

Although I do have to ask, if you guys were to compile a list of the objective best games ever made, what would you put at #1? When you factor in gameplay, influence, standing the test of time and all that stuff.

I personally think that compiling a list such as this for all of gaming as a whole is a lot harder than one for say, animated series or pop songs, since there are os many different genres, types of gameplay, methods of playing, etc to consider. But for me, I'd think that SMB3 and MGS1 would certainly be up there.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Although I do have to ask, if you guys were to compile a list of the objective best games ever made, what would you put at #1? When you factor in gameplay, influence, standing the test of time and all that stuff.

I personally think that compiling a list such as this for all of gaming as a whole is a lot harder than one for say, animated series or pop songs, since there are os many different genres, types of gameplay, methods of playing, etc to consider. But for me, I'd think that SMB3 and MGS1 would certainly be up there.

Probably Super Mario Bros. 3 if we're talking generally. To me that was everything a sequel should aspire to be.

Stuff like this makes me glad that I usually stick to niche genres like stealth, horror, and beat 'em up.

And then it makes me sad that those are niche genres in the first place.

Hitman, Thief, MGS, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Fear Effect, Double Dragon, Final Fight, and Streets Of Rage all used to be top sellers with huge sales. Then they stopped selling because the audience moved on to something new. The stuff got stale.

The problem is they brought the franchises back without any of the effort that went into the original games getting paltry sales and devaluing the brand. Beat em ups haven't had this problem as much (Streetwise and Golden Axe Beast Rider aside), but companies don't put their A-teams on the games.

As New Super Mario Bros. showed: lack of AAA 2D platformers on consoles for years + old school franchise with clout = Big Bucks.

There's two ways to bring niche games back (everything goes niche eventually, bringing it back is the trick) but not too many try the second approach. But the ones that do (NSMBWii, Rayman Origins, and Mega Man 9) usually get rewarded big for it.

[Foggle]

Although I do have to ask, if you guys were to compile a list of the objective best games ever made, what would you put at #1? When you factor in gameplay, influence, standing the test of time and all that stuff.

I personally think that compiling a list such as this for all of gaming as a whole is a lot harder than one for say, animated series or pop songs, since there are os many different genres, types of gameplay, methods of playing, etc to consider. But for me, I'd think that SMB3 and MGS1 would certainly be up there.

You are correct; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that compiling such a list would literally be impossible. Though if I were forced to make one, these games would top it:

Super Mario Bros. 3
Thief: The Dark Project
Deus Ex
Doom
Baldur's Gate Planescape: Torment, actually
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Grand Theft Auto 3
Devil May Cry

[Avaitor]

I'm now reminded, what happened to Splinter Cell? That used to be HUGE.

Hell, does Ubisoft even make Tom Clancy games anymore?