Super Mario Series

[Spark Of Spirit]

why don't you like how yoshi controls in smw?

Because I like the way he controls in Yoshi's Island way more.

Sort of like 2D Sonic. A new game without the spindash or insta-shield rubs me wrong, event though I can go back and play the old games without them with no problem. It just seems to me that they're obvious improvements that should be kept going forward.

[talonmalon333]

Your frequent usage of "So like Super Mario 3D World" is kind of proof of what I'm getting at. Nintendo has no qualms with throwing in as much content as they can in 3D Mario. But they just seem against putting an equal amount of effort into 2D Mario. Face it, if this wasn't Nintendo, you would be all over them for looking down on 2D Mario and treating it like some sort of lesser spinoff.

After Super Mario 3D World, I think they could easily do it. For all we know, that could be the next big Mario game coming.

I doubt it. The next game will probably be a successor to Galaxy. Not like I have a problem with that, but I do want to see a great 2D game.

[Spark Of Spirit]

I would be looking down on them if I didn't think NSMBWii and U were amazing, yeah. But I do, so I don't call them down. I'm about end results, not what could have/should have.

[talonmalon333]

I think NSMBWii is a very good game that had the potential to be great. After DKC Returns came out I don't think I've gone back to NSMBWii since.

[Speedy]

I think NSMBWii is a very good game that had the potential to be great. After DKC Returns came out I don't think I've gone back to NSMBWii since.

I've replayed both.

[gunswordfist]

that was an insta-shield? honestly i used it so little that i had little to no idea what it was.

[talonmalon333]

What's an insta-shield?

[gunswordfist]

i assume the flash sonic makes when you hit the jump button during a jump in sonic 3/knuckles. i am guessing it deflects small projectiles like tails' tails does.

[Spark Of Spirit]

It allows you to hit enemies that would otherwise be un-hittable if you time it right. It's not absolutely necessary, but it's fun to use, especially since it gives you a good pop if you time your jump right.

Sonic 4 got rid of it for the homing attack, though. Which was really stupid.

[gunswordfist]

i think i got sick of homing just from the demo. i do prefer timing jumps instead, either.

also, i would say spin dash and super peelout are sonic's essential new moves. i'd take peelout over boost anyday.

[Speedy]

Re:  Removing moves from later games:

And yet if Inti Creates dared to put the slide or charger in a hypothetical Mega Man 11, some fans would cry foul.  "It's not pure like Mega Man II!  RUINED FOREVER!!!"

[talonmalon333]

Ah, is this the insta shield?



If so, I was a fan of that, too.

[gunswordfist]

i can't see shit on this phone. lol

[Spark Of Spirit]

Yeah, that's the insta-shield.

Re:  Removing moves from later games:

And yet if Inti Creates dared to put the slide or charger in a hypothetical Mega Man 11, some fans would cry foul.  "It's not pure like Mega Man II!  RUINED FOREVER!!!"

The slide I have no problem with. The megabuster I've never liked, though. It changes the gameplay too much. The X buster was awesome in the X series because it was balanced, I don't think the megabuster has ever been balanced in the classic games, though.

[gunswordfist]

i like the slide too. the fight against the flying turtle boss in 7 is one of my favorite and yellow devil is much more bearable with the slide. i was never able to beat him in 1.