Resident Evil: A thread for the undead!

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Sounds like pretty much every modern 3rd person shooter out there, which all rely WAY too heavily on scripted events and flash rather than in-game substance.

Thank god for Vanquish.

Really, RE6 isn't a bad game, but it's only worth one full playthrough. There are flashes of greatness at times though, like Leon 2, Chris 4, and Ada 1, which are endlessly replayable.

Hopefully the next Resident Evil actually manages to recapture the magic of RE4. And if not, there's always the Deadly Premonition remake.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

I saw an interview with the director of RE6 recently in which he said that his favorite RE games of all time were REmake for the Gamecube (which he actually worked on) and Resident Evil 4 among the modern style of RE games. Its a shame then that he didn't take more about what those games did right and incorporate them into RE6, because that's really what most people were probably looking for.

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I saw an interview with the director of RE6 recently in which he said that his favorite RE games of all time were REmake for the Gamecube (which he actually worked on) and Resident Evil 4 among the modern style of RE games. Its a shame then that he didn't take more about what those games did right and incorporate them into RE6, because that's really what most people were probably looking for.

Ultimately, it's not his decision. I believe Capcom's execs are the ones responsible for the direction RE6 ended up going in.

Personally, I don't consider RE 4, (the first 2/3 of) 5, or Revelations to be third person shooters. They are action-adventure games.

RE6, outside of Leon's second chapter and (the majority of) Ada's story, is a shooter.

Leon 2 is brilliant. It begins with a stroll through a cemetery. It's dark and rainy; corpses are crawling out of the ground, illuminated only by flashes of lightning. If you aren't careful, you'll fall into a flooding open grave. You reach the gate to the Cathedral grounds, but it's locked. You look inside the guardhouse for the key, and a zombie dog jumps out at you! The dog has the key in his mouth, so you must chase him back through the cemetery to retrieve it. From there, you end up in a (relatively simple) maze without your partner, and must escape alone. You reach the entrance to the Cathedral, but the guys inside won't let you in. The church bell rings, and you must fight off a horde of attacking zombies.

From there, you must open the door to the underground passageway. This involves running around a room filled with arrow traps, dodging the projectiles and pressing buttons to deactivate them. Once you're underground, you are presented with multiple prison cells and a lock mechanism. One door holds the entrance to the next area, another, treasure. But the other doors house mini-boss enemies; if you want to conserve ammo and health, you must figure out the proper door code(s) using the clues provided to you.

The rest of the level isn't as memorable, but it still has that RE4 feeling for the most part. It's great.

I wish the whole game was like that.

[talonmalon333]

Personally, I don't consider RE 4, (the first 2/3 of) 5, or Revelations to be third person shooters. They are action-adventure games.

I call RE4 a horror adventure. I know it's not an actual genre, but I think it's fair. RE5 is TPS if I ever saw one.

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RE5 is TPS if I ever saw one.

The last part is, but aside from rail-shooting, the first 4 chapters are basically just a lazy rehash of RE4 without the expert pacing, brilliant level design, good atmosphere, or overall creativity.

[talonmalon333]

RE5 is TPS if I ever saw one.

The last part is, but aside from rail-shooting, the first 4 chapters are basically just a lazy rehash of RE4 without the expert pacing, brilliant level design, good atmosphere, or overall creativity.

But without the atmosphere, I do think it'd be fair to call RE4 a TPS. Really, I guess the question is, what qualifies as a third-person shooter?

Also, I saw someone mention Vanquish here. To me, that game is almost how I'd imagine RE5 if Mikami were in charge of it.

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But without the atmosphere, I do think it'd be fair to call RE4 a TPS. Really, I guess the question is, what qualifies as a third-person shooter?

Eh, maybe. But for the most part, you aren't shooting enemies who have firearms, and you do a lot more than just blast baddies with guns. In RE4 and Revelations, anyway.

Also, I saw someone mention Vanquish here. To me, that game is almost how I'd imagine RE5 if Mikami were in charge of it.

Vanquish is literally the embodiment of zany, fast-paced action. I don't think Mikami would have ever taken RE that far from its roots.

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Vanquish is literally the embodiment of zany, fast-paced action. I don't think Mikami would have ever taken RE that far from its roots.

Right. I meant if you took the current RE5 and Mikamized it. Not necessarily completely like Vanquish. But more like, they'd actually update the system accordingly, rather than directly take 4's.

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Yeah, maybe. RE6 would definitely be like Vanquish if it was Mikamized.

Capcom will never surpass RE4 without Mikami's help. It's just not possible at this point.

[talonmalon333]

Yeah, maybe. RE6 would definitely be like Vanquish if it was Mikamized.

Capcom will never surpass RE4 without Mikami's help. It's just not possible at this point.

Pretty much what I think. They just don't have what it takes. Only way I could see them reaching that level of quality is by remaking 2, which isn't really a new game.

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Yeah, maybe. RE6 would definitely be like Vanquish if it was Mikamized.

Capcom will never surpass RE4 without Mikami's help. It's just not possible at this point.

Or Kamiya's, possibly, though he's never made a game in the fashion of RE4, most people feel like he managed to surpass Mikami's RE1 with RE2, so maybe he could replicate that same feat with a modern-style RE game.

Either way, its clear that neither of these guys want anything to do with Capcom anymore, and if the past few years have been any indication, its probably for good reason.

Now, as far as TPS games go, I'd love to see Itagaki's spin on the genre, but the more time goes on without me hearing so much as a peep of news about Devil's Third, the more I firmly believe that the game is just doomed to never be released. Its just a stroke of bad luck for Itagaki and his team, I suppose.

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Kamiya doesn't like horror though, so I don't think he'd want to direct another RE game even if he still worked for Capcom.

[talonmalon333]

Either way, its clear that neither of these guys want anything to do with Capcom anymore, and if the past few year's have been any indication, its probably for good reason.

I'll stick around for Ace Attorney and RE (unless it goes all bad). But other than that, yeah, I'm out.

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Kamiya doesn't like horror though, so I don't think he'd want to direct another RE game even if he still worked for Capcom.

Really? Well, I never knew that. You certainly wouldn't be able to tell given that he's the guy who directed RE2, but maybe he even dislikes his own game if that's the case.

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Really? Well, I never knew that. You certainly wouldn't be able to tell given that he's the guy who directed RE2, but maybe he even dislikes his own game if that's the case.

The version of RE4 that eventually became DMC was also directed by him.

But I dunno. Maybe this is a relatively recent occurrence or something.