It wouldn't hurt to bring this topic back as well. :blush:
Here's some of mine! (I forgot what I originally wrote, since the old board died)
Dexter's Lab- Still with such classic trippy moments like the Tom & Jerry parody and that episode with Koosalagooplagoop (or however you say that guy's name).
Johnny Bravo- Heck, those guest star appearances of people like Adam West, Donny Osmond, and Farrah Fawcett actually worked extremely well in the first season.
Cow & Chicken- Just as memorable as Nick's Ren & Stimpy, only with less adult gags.
Powerpuff Girls- Still with a memorable set of evil villians, as the cute charm of the Powerpuffs themselves. :swoon:
Ed, Edd 'n Eddy- One of those cartoons I thought I didn't like at first, until in 2005, when I found out how funny the series is. Those childish scams the Eds always pull off in every episode never fail to bore me.
Courage the Cowardly Dog- Over Scooby-Doo? Why yes, due to having more authentic scary cartoon monsters than the Scooby-Doo set.
Cow & Chicken is Ren & Stimpy done right, IMO. Same style of humor, but with much better execution.
Funny, I'm not a big fan of Ren and Stimpy, but having seen a lot of Cow and Chicken as a kid, it embodied a lot of the things that I personally hated about Ren and Stimpy, and less of the things that still made it entertaining for me. That's just me, though.
Anyways, my favorite Cartoon Cartoon has always been, and always shall be, Johnny Bravo. Sure, the seasons that came after the show's initial cancellation are complete ass, but those first 3 seasons were comedy gold. It didn't rely on stupidly cheap jokes or anything like that, but just had genuinely funny characters with genuinely funny dialogue thanks to some sharp writing.
Dexter's Laboratory would be a close second for me.
I posted this on FB, but no one noticed it.
Anyway, here's one of my favorite post-season 1 JB episodes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS93V9Db1MM) I really hope we get the rest of this show on DVD, but that's probably not going to happen.
Ahaha, I love that episode. ;D
atm, if I had to rank the first 8 Cartoon Cartoons, it'd probably go like
EEnE
PPG
Dex
JB
C&C
Courage
Weasel
ML&O
PPG, Dexter's Lab, and Johnny are interchangeable at any given time. I haven't seen much of Weasel at all in years, but it was always about equal to Cow & Chicken. Maybe if I see some of it again, I can make a more firm decision.
I actually like all of those except ML&O. That one never really seemed to work like the others did.
I liked it as a kid, but watching it now, it's by far the weak link in the bunch.
Maybe that's why it was always segregated from the rest of the CCs, and never really made any appearances on CC Fridays' like all of the other CCs.
Oh, BTW Avaitor, where does Sheep in the Big City rank on your list?
Oh, and where does Billy and Mandy rank on your list, as well?
You want me to do a ranking of them all?
EEnE
Sheep
PPG
Dex
JB
B&M
C&C
Courage
Weasel
Time Squad
Evil CC
KND
Robot Jones
ML&O
Sheep has always struck a chord with me that most of the others couldn't. I could probably switch it up with Powerpuff, Dexter or Johnny, but it'll always be near the top for me.
If you want me to put Samurai Jack on there, it'd probably be between Grim and Cow & Chicken.
I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who really enjoyed KND for what it was. It was just a fun, entertaining show that was a secret agent organization of kids kind of show. At the very least I don't get what people disliked about it. I've always seen people saying stuff like "that show sucked" or "crap like KND," but have never once heard a convincing complaint about it. I get the feeling that its just one of "those shows," that somehow people decide needs to be that one show that needs to get ragged on since every other show gets praised too much, or something like that. Anyways, its not nearly one of my favorite CCs, but I did enjoy it quite a bit. I do really need to re-watch EE n' E, though.
Oh, BTW, what did people think of PPG the movie, the only CC to get a theatrically released motion picture (I know that EE n' E got one for TV, which I still need to see, but I specifically mean this one as a theatrical release)? I myself haven't seen it in ages, but I plan on re-watching it soon.
KND is fine, and I watch it when it's on, but it's not really a favorite of mine.
I thought the PPG movie was fine, actually. But I can see why hardcore fans of the show might not like it. It is a bit too heavy on the serious side. But I am still surprised that it bombed so hard to this day.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 28, 2010, 08:53:30 PM
Oh, BTW, what did people think of PPG the movie, the only CC to get a theatrically released motion picture (I know that EE n' E got one for TV, which I still need to see, but I specifically mean this one as a theatrical release)? I myself haven't seen it in ages, but I plan on re-watching it soon.
It was okay. Took itself a little too seriously, but there was enough about the movie that worked to make it decent. I haven't seen it in ages myself however, so I need to fix that as well.
I think the movie took a toll for the worse on the series after that. Craig McCracken didn't like how serious it was, and started doing goofier plots on the show that didn't really fit in with the show. PPG had a great sense of humor, but there was enough heart and character development to balance the funny parts out, and the show lost it's balance after the movie.
And I think Craig completely lost that with Foster's, which was way too wacky for it's own good, a few episodes aside.
I really couldn't get into Fosters. The movie/premiere was a good start, but damn if I lost a ton of interest when the show actually started.
Yeah, I'm kind of the same as Desensitized in regards to Fosters. The idea was good, but the execution just didn't work for me, personally, and I quickly lost interest in it.
I was a decently big fan of it when it was on, but in hindsight, the show doesn't really hold up. I just can't begin to appreciate any of the characters. I don't think they're very round at all.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F11kju6d.jpg&hash=20f03d514516451b4976f20471f092f5de332f23)
I loved that the first time I read it.
Huh. Interesting.
I enjoyed KND at first, in fact I voted for it on Cartoon Cartoon Weekend. It was a fun show, but later seasons overdid the toilet humor to the point where it was unwatchable to me. I remember an episode about crumbles made from ear wax and snot. And I realize all Cartoon Cartoons used toilet humor, but rarely as a central plot device.
Ed, Edd n' Eddy is definitely my favorite of them all. I'm surprised that it managed to last as long as it did and still be good. The school centric episodes were also a fresh new setting. The movie finale was also great, I honestly think it would have been a great theatrical film. That wasn't going to be though with the PPG movie being a huge bomb. And speaking of which I actually liked the PPG movie. It wasn't the best movie adaption of an animated series, but I liked it for what it was.
Other ones that are my favorites are PPG, Billy & Mandy, Courage and Sheep.
I think the Eds movie could have done pretty well if they chose a good place to schedule a theatrical release. The problem with the PPG movie was that it came out during a super busy summer where a bunch of other movies that kids would want to go to were out, including Spider-Man, Lilo & Stitch, and Men in Black II. Not to mention the fact that they advertised it more like a little girl's movie than anything, which probably alienated it's adult and male fanbase. I know that I didn't see it until the VHS came out.
EEnE was still popular at that time, the movie was ready to show for a while, looked as good as anything else in theaters, and from what I remember, summer 2009 wasn't all that packed.
I just think that CN was a little anxious about putting another movie out in theaters since The Powerpuff Girls Movie was such a disappointment. I think that's why the Samurai Jack movie keeps on getting delayed and why they haven't tried anything with Ben 10 yet.
Honestly, I really liked the PPG movie as a kid. I'm not sure how it holds up, but to me if it bombed, it wasn't because it was a badly made movie, but because of the reasons that Avaitor mentioned. I can at least say that it was a hell of a lot better than MIBII, if nothing else, yet MIBII made much more money than it did (if only because it got put together with Spider-Man on single ticket for a couple of weeks, which I believe firmly boosted its sales and the money it brought in purely by association with SM in the double feature).
@Foggle: Nice job with the Foster's comic, I didn't expect that one coming! Has been a while since I seen Foster's, one of the best modern CN series alive! Wish they could revive it though. :'(
The movie was decent for what it was. Personally, I never thought of PPG as the kind of show that could translate well into movie format. Some of the half-hour episodes already feel pretty padded, so I can't imagine why they'd try to tackle something 4 times that length.
And lol at St Elsewhere parody.
Quote from: Neomysterion Prime on December 29, 2010, 01:18:36 AM
@Foggle: Nice job with the Foster's comic, I didn't expect that one coming! Has been a while since I seen Foster's, one of the best modern CN series alive! Wish they could revive it though. :'(
Wish I could say I made that comic, but I definitely didn't. My art makes kids' crayon drawings on napkins at Applebee's look great. :lol:
KND was
ass. Not as bad as Robot Jones or Squirrel Boy, but it was pretty fucking terrible.
I have to echo the argument that KND's pilot was better than the show itself. It was a decent premise that I thought the show couldn't live up to.
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
KND was ass. Not as bad as Robot Jones or Squirrel Boy, but it was pretty fucking terrible.
Oh, really? And for what reason? You see, I see comments about the show like this but no reasons behind it. If that's your opinion that's fine, but really its not ass. You really have nothing on the show that made it terrible. So, really, its basically just one of those shows that people call crap for no reason, unless you care to prove me wrong, which I guarantee you can't do.
Stopped liking KND once I started sympathizing more with the adults than the kids.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 29, 2010, 04:29:49 PM
Stopped liking KND once I started sympathizing more with the adults than the kids.
At what point was that, though? I stopped watch the series after season 4, mostly because I had stopped watch CN altogether by that point in time (well, mostly, anyways).
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
KND was ass. Not as bad as Robot Jones or Squirrel Boy, but it was pretty fucking terrible.
Oh, really? And for what reason? You see, I see comments about the show like this but no reasons behind it. If that's your opinion that's fine, but really its not ass. You really have nothing on the show that made it terrible. So, really, its basically just one of those shows that people call crap for no reason, unless you care to prove me wrong, which I guarantee you can't do.
For me, this show is like Pokemon; it's a good kids' show, I admit, but it doesn't hold up
at all for me now that I'm not 10 anymore and I can completely understand why my dad would roll his eyes whenever he saw me watching it. The writing is absolutely wretched, IMO.
After the first couple of seasons (and in a few episodes of those, as well), nearly every single joke was about poop, piss, boogers, farts, candy, or how much the kids hated adults. I can recall whole episodes about ear wax and eye crust that weren't even funny to me as a little kid... they were just fucking gross. The jokes that weren't absolutely disgusting toilet humor in-line with Terrence & Phillip got old after they were repeated a million times or stretched out for far too long, as was the case with pretty much every even slightly clever instance of writing in the show. Out of all the characters, the only likable ones were Numbuhs One and Five, who were still fairly dull personality-wise, but at least didn't make me want to bash my head against the wall. Numbuh 2 was especially obnoxious, and was on the same level as Gir from Invader Zim (which I can admit is a good show even if I don't like it -- more than I can say about this one). Numbuhs 3 and 4 were cardboard cut-outs of the same exact characters that appear in every goddamn kids' show, and, thus, I could not find them at all interesting. Father was an okay antagonist, I suppose, but his kids were fucking annoying and would have added a welcome rivalry to the plot had they actually done anything of worth that didn't make me reach for the mute button.
I used to watch the show all the damn time when I was younger; I loved it. But even nostalgia can't save it for me when I look back at the episodes and find the writing to be cringe-worthy in nearly every respect.
The acronym titles were pretty cool, though.
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 04:48:43 PM
For me, this show is like Pokemon; it's a good kids' show, I admit, but it doesn't hold up at all for me now that I'm not 10 anymore and I can completely understand why my dad would roll his eyes whenever he saw me watching it. The writing is absolutely wretched, IMO.
Uh, Not seeing the analogy here. The earlier episodes at least still have entertainment value to them, and I never got the feeling that the show was trying really hard to market toys or trading cards or anything like that. And how is the writing wretched? Maybe in the last couple of seasons which I never really saw it got that bad, but definitely not in the first 4 seasons, which make up a majority of the show. Your dad was rolling his eyes at the show probably because it didn't appeal to adults at all, but it is a kids show. Here's a news flash, there are a ton of other shows that you may think hold up from nostalgia, but I'm sure adults would roll their eyes at that as well, because they don't have good writing either. As for KND, it didn't ever have really good writing, but the same goes for A LOT of other kids shows at the time and even before it. Nothing you said proves it to be any worse than the most average of kids show of that day.
QuoteAfter the first couple of seasons (and in a few episodes of those, as well), nearly every single joke was about poop, piss, boogers, farts, candy, or how much the kids hated adults.
Yeah, HUGE exaggeration. Even in the later seasons when it did start having more toilet humor, it wasn't nearly every joke being about toilet humor, I know that much for sure. Come up with specific examples if you want to prove that point.
QuoteI can recall whole episodes about ear wax and eye crust that weren't even funny to me as a little kid... they were just fucking gross.
Nice try, but here's the problem, first of all I can already tell that you don't remember anything about this episode, you just read an earlier post that mentioned it and even that poster kind of exaggerated that episode since the plot didn't revolve around the eyecrust, it was just a reveal at the very end of the episode. There was no toilet humor about that until the last minute, literally. So yeah, that example also hurts your argument more than helps it. Next time it'd do you some good to get the facts straight on what you're referencing.
QuoteThe jokes that weren't absolutely disgusting toilet humor in-line with Terrence & Phillip got old after they were repeated a million times or stretched out for far too long, as was the case with pretty much every even slightly clever instance of writing in the show.
Once again, I can say that all of this is false for most episode of the first 4 seasons. It was never that heavy on toilet humor until what I assume is the last 2 seasons which is when I stopped watching the show anyways, just because I wasn't interested in CN anymore. And as for the jokes being repeated, give me some examples? This criticism seems completely pulled out of your ass. I know plenty of things to criticize the show for, but it wasn't repetitive jokes. It definitely had some stupid jokes and badly written episodes, but on the whole it was in an even ratio of hit or miss jokes. It was basically fairly average in that regard, but hardly ever standout bad.
QuoteOut of all the characters, the only likable ones were Numbuhs One and Five, who were still fairly dull personality-wise, but at least didn't make me want to bash my head against the wall. Numbuh 2 was especially obnoxious, and was on the same level as Gir from Invader Zim (which I can admit is a good show even if I don't like it -- more than I can say about this one). Numbuhs 3 and 4 were cardboard cut-outs of the same exact characters that appear in every goddamn kids' show, and, thus, I could not find them at all interesting. Father was an okay antagonist, I suppose, but his kids were fucking annoying and would have added a welcome rivalry to the plot had they actually done anything of worth that didn't make me reach for the mute button.
Uh, yeah, nice try again, but its just generic criticisms that you came up with. As someone who remembers enough of the show, the criticisms don't fit. Number 3 was certainly as annoying as fuck, but number 2 was meant to be the tech-geek of the group. He wasn't obnoxious through bad writing, in this case, but because his character was meant to be that way as could be seen by the other characters getting annoyed by him when he acted that way. As a result it came off as more of a humorous thing since he always got what he usually got what was coming to him whenever he started getting too high up with his attitude. Number 4 was your typical "guy of the group who likes to act tough character," but that's hardly a criticism to make the show out to be so much worse than average, as I can find tons of cookie-cutter cliche characters in a ton of shows that did it worse than KND.
QuoteI used to watch the show all the damn time when I was younger; I loved it. But even nostalgia can't save it for me when I look back at the episodes and find the writing to be cringe-worthy in nearly every respect.
Then that's your problem for thinking of things too nostalgically. As a kid I thought it was an average but entertaining show. As an adult its still an average but fairly entertaining show (at least the first 4 seasons). I never had fond nostalgic memories of it, nor did I ever really change my views on it. In your case you probably liked it more than you should have as a kid, but then got disappointed more than you should have when you realized it wasn't that great. I was about 13 when the show was out and my judgment on it hasn't changed since. All you've really done is prove my point that its just one of those shows that people claim stand out in bad ways for no real reason. It also doesn't help that most of your criticisms don't match up with what other people would typically criticize this show for, and if toilet humor is really the worst that can be come up with, shouldn't this show be considered average anyways when compared to shows like Cow and Chicken and the plethora of other cartoons out there that have done WAY worse with this type of humor?
Really, sorry, but your reasoning doesn't work at all.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 05:08:16 PM
Uh, Not seeing the analogy here. The earlier episodes at least still have entertainment value to them, and I never got the feeling that the show was trying really hard to market toys or trading cards or anything like that. And how is the writing wretched? Maybe in the last couple of seasons which I never really saw it got that bad, but definitely not in the first 4 seasons, which make up a majority of the show. Your dad was rolling his eyes at the show probably because it didn't appeal to adults at all, but it is a kids show. Here's a news flash, there are a ton of other shows that you may think hold up from nostalgia, but I'm sure adults would roll their eyes at that as well, because they don't have good writing either. As for KND, it didn't ever have really good writing, but the same goes for A LOT of other kids shows at the time and even before it. Nothing you said proves it to be any worse than the most average of kids show of that day.
That's the point. Many Cartoon Cartoons could and did appeal equally to kids and adults: Ed Edd n Eddy, Courage, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab (the early episodes), Samurai Jack, etc. I never said it was like Pokemon in that its intention was to sell toys, but that it's like Pokemon in that the writing does not hold up to me now that I'm no longer a kid.
QuoteYeah, HUGE exaggeration. Even in the later seasons when it did start having more toilet humor, it wasn't nearly every joke being about toilet humor, I know that much for sure. Come up with specific examples if you want to prove that point.
[gunswordfist]I don't really feel like finding specific examples,[/gunswordfist] but -- off the top of my head, at least four years after the fact -- I do distinctly remember an entire episode about a guy who dressed up like a toilet and flushed people down a giant toilet bowl and another episode where Numbuh 2 had the farts
bad and nearly every joke was about him farting.
QuoteNice try, but here's the problem, first of all I can already tell that you don't remember anything about this episode, you just read an earlier post that mentioned it and even that poster kind of exaggerated that episode since the plot didn't revolve around the eyecrust, it was just a reveal at the very end of the episode. There was no toilet humor about that until the last minute, literally. So yeah, that example also hurts your argument more than helps it. Next time it'd do you some good to get the facts straight on what you're referencing.
Except the other guy didn't even talk about eye crust in his post, I remembered it on my own.
Considering the plot was about them eating eye crust, even if it wasn't evident until the end of the episode, it was still "about" eye crust being made into food and then consumed.
QuoteOnce again, I can say that all of this is false for most episode of the first 4 seasons. It was never that heavy on toilet humor until what I assume is the last 2 seasons which is when I stopped watching the show anyways, just because I wasn't interested in CN anymore. And as for the jokes being repeated, give me some examples? This criticism seems completely pulled out of your ass. I know plenty of things to criticize the show for, but it wasn't repetitive jokes. It definitely had some stupid jokes and badly written episodes, but on the whole it was in an even ratio of hit or miss jokes. It was basically fairly average in that regard, but hardly ever standout bad.
Many shows have recurring gags; this one practically lived off them. Nearly everything any of the antagonists did (or any character other than the main five) was the exact same thing every time they appeared. And of course I remember the last four seasons (there were 8 ) more than the first four, because they're the ones I saw most recently. They're newer.
QuoteUh, yeah, nice try again, but its just generic criticisms that you came up with. As someone who remembers enough of the show, the criticisms don't fit. Number 3 was certainly as annoying as fuck, but number 2 was meant to be the tech-geek of the group. He wasn't obnoxious through bad writing, in this case, but because his character was meant to be that way as could be seen by the other characters getting annoyed by him when he acted that way. As a result it came off as more of a humorous thing since he always got what he usually got what was coming to him whenever he started getting too high up with his attitude. Number 4 was your typical "guy of the group who likes to act tough character," but that's hardly a criticism to make the show out to be so much worse than average, as I can find tons of cookie-cutter cliche characters in a ton of shows that did it worse than KND.
I never said Numbuh 2 was obnoxious due to bad writing, I compared him to Gir who is obnoxious because he -- also -- was written that way. I didn't like many of the characters, and the ones I did I found kind of boring and lacking personality, that's just an opinionated thing.
QuoteThen that's your problem for thinking of things too nostalgically. As a kid I thought it was an average but entertaining show. As an adult its still an average but fairly entertaining show (at least the first 4 seasons). I never had fond nostalgic memories of it, nor did I ever really change my views on it. In your case you probably liked it more than you should have as a kid, but then got disappointed more than you should have when you realized it wasn't that great. I was about 13 when the show was out and my judgment on it hasn't changed since. All you've really done is prove my point that its just one of those shows that people claim stand out in bad ways for no real reason. It also doesn't help that most of your criticisms don't match up with what other people would typically criticize this show for, and if toilet humor is really the worst that can be come up with, shouldn't this show be considered average anyways when compared to shows like Cow and Chicken and the plethora of other cartoons out there that have done WAY worse with this type of humor?
I liked the I Am Weasel portions of Cow And Chicken (for Weasel
only), but I've never liked Cow and Chicken. I don't like toilet humor period, and what I remember about KND is the toilet humor more than anything else.
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 04:48:43 PM
it's a good kids' show, I admit, but it doesn't hold up at all for me now that I'm not 10 anymore
This was my issue with the show, it was the first Cartoon Cartoon that really only appealed to kids, and really the first major one after all the other cartoons of the 90s that appealed to kids and adults alike(anything from Ren and Stimpy to Animaniacs to Dexter's Laboratory to Spongebob are examples of cartoons that appeal to both). I was in high school by the time I first noticed my little brother watching it, and I always thought it was stupid that the kids accused the adults of tyranny because they gave the kids homework or a bedtime or made them eat vegetables. Maybe it was that I was old enough to realize in those situations that the adults were right, that there were reasons why you are given homework or told to eat veggies instead of candy all the time.
It just didn't portray childhood the way other shows like Recess did, where sure, there was kid vs. adult situations, but there was also a certain group of kid vs another group of kid. Recess was more adventurous, had the kids battle a heatwave in order to find the one source of water on the playground, had the kids battle against a leader who was determined enough to leave a legacy even if it meant exploiting the kids of the playground, and even had less popular girls going against a clique of stuck-up little bitches who thought they were better than everyone else. Even in situations where it was strictly kid vs adult, the kids didn't see characters like Principal Prickly or Mrs Finster as enemies who must be destroyed at all costs, the kids only took objection to certain policies. It was shown at least a few times that T.J. and company had compassion for Prickly and Finster, and if something the kids did caused the adults to lose their jobs or get in trouble, the kids felt guilty and found ways to correct the situation(similar things also happened on Hey Arnold!, and even The Simpsons). I never saw that on KND.
Y'know, I never really thought much about that aspect, SNES, but I think that might have also contributed to my disdain for the series. Well said! :thumbup:
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 05:23:04 PM
That's the point. Many Cartoon Cartoons could and did appeal equally to kids and adults: Ed Edd n Eddy, Courage, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab (the early episodes), Samurai Jack, etc. I never said it was like Pokemon in that its intention was to sell toys, but that it's like Pokemon in that the writing does not hold up to me now that I'm no longer a kid.
You only think that all of that stuff would appeal to most adults. It appeals to you as more of an adult because you grew up with it, just like how like how Looney Tunes would appeal to even a lot of old people since they grew up with it as kids and also have Universal appeal, but I guarantee you that most people who were already adults when the CC's you listed were in their prime would not be able to sit through them without getting bored, because it honestly doesn't appeal that much to people outside of the generation that they were intended for. Its the same reason why plenty of adults I know still have fond memories of stuff like Scooby-Doo, which I persoanlly find to be shit, while never being able to understand why I loved shows like Dexter's Lab and PPG.
Quotebut -- off the top of my head, at least four years after the fact -- I do distinctly remember an entire episode about a guy who dressed up like a toilet and flushed people down a giant toilet bowl and another episode where Numbuh 2 had the farts bad and nearly every joke was about him farting.
The first example is not good because the Toilenator usually didn't even have any single episodes completely dedicated to himself except for one, as far as I can recall, and that one episode ironically didn't even use that much toilet humor, unless you can give me a specific episode name that I can check out to prove that one. The 2nd example is merely only 1 example, and somehow I get the feeling that its from one of the seasons that I didn't even watch.
QuoteExcept the other guy didn't even talk about eye crust in his post, I remembered it on my own.
He still referenced that exact episode.
QuoteConsidering the plot was about them eating eye crust, even if it wasn't evident until the end of the episode, it was still "about" eye crust being made into food and then consumed.
No, it was still just a last-minute twist. The jokes didn't revolve around the eye-crust because it wasn't revealed until the end. The dialogue didn't revolve around eye-crust since it wasn't revealed until the end. So, nice try, but unless the writing was at least hinting at eyecrust or some sort of toilet humor, which it wasn't since the writers weren't even creative enough to have subtle-hinting like that, your point still falls flat.
QuoteMany shows have recurring gags; this one practically lived off them. Nearly everything any of the antagonists did (or any character other than the main five) was the exact same thing every time they appeared. And of course I remember the last four seasons (there were 8 ) more than the first four, because they're the ones I saw most recently. They're newer.
Funny, I only recall 6 seasons ever airing. Perhaps you're splitting up some seasons, otherwise I'm referring to more than just the first 4 seasons, since I did watch at least two-thirds of the show before I stopped. And once again, all you did was state that it had recurring gags. Where are the examples of these recurring gags that the series lived off of that were more horrible than anything else airing at the time?
QuoteI never said Numbuh 2 was obnoxious due to bad writing, I compared him to Gir who is obnoxious because he -- also -- was written that way. I didn't like many of the characters, and the ones I did I found kind of boring and lacking personality, that's just an opinionated thing.
OK, But since you admit its opinion none of it really constitutes to the show being terrible beyond average, as you claimed it was. It just means that it didn't meet with your particular preferences.
QuoteI liked the I Am Weasel portions of Cow And Chicken (for Weasel only), but I've never liked Cow and Chicken. I don't like toilet humor period, and what I remember about KND is the toilet humor more than anything else.
Which is funny because, I honestly don't remember that much toilet humor, and in this case it hasn't been that long since I've seen my fair share of reruns of the show, so I'm curious as to where most of this toilet humor comes from. I'm once again assuming its from the last 2 seasons, and in this case I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Anything before that, aside from a few episodes which had way too much toilet humor, is plain exaggeration though.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on December 29, 2010, 05:38:13 PM
This was my issue with the show, it was the first Cartoon Cartoon that really only appealed to kids, and really the first major one after all the other cartoons of the 90s that appealed to kids and adults alike(anything from Ren and Stimpy to Animaniacs to Dexter's Laboratory to Spongebob are examples of cartoons that appeal to both). I was in high school by the time I first noticed my little brother watching it, and I always thought it was stupid that the kids accused the adults of tyranny because they gave the kids homework or a bedtime or made them eat vegetables. Maybe it was that I was old enough to realize in those situations that the adults were right, that there were reasons why you are given homework or told to eat veggies instead of candy all the time.
Trust me, you heavily overestimate how many CC's appealed to most adults on a general level. Those who were into cartoons at the time got the appeal. A lot more people who were adults at the time did NOT get the appeal of a lot of CCs. There's a big reason for why they never attained close to as much popularity as stuff like Spongebob, or even stuff like Animaniacs, for that matter.
QuoteIt just didn't portray childhood the way other shows like Recess did, where sure, there was kid vs. adult situations, but there was also a certain group of kid vs another group of kid. Recess was more adventurous, had the kids battle a heatwave in order to find the one source of water on the playground, had the kids battle against a leader who was determined enough to leave a legacy even if it meant exploiting the kids of the playground, and even had less popular girls going against a clique of stuck-up little bitches who thought they were better than everyone else. Even in situations where it was strictly kid vs adult, the kids didn't see characters like Principal Prickly or Mrs Finster as enemies who must be destroyed at all costs, the kids only took objection to certain policies. It was shown at least a few times that T.J. and company had compassion for Prickly and Finster, and if something the kids did caused the adults to lose their jobs or get in trouble, the kids felt guilty and found ways to correct the situation(similar things also happened on Hey Arnold!, and even The Simpsons). I never saw that on KND.
It wasn't as good as shows like Recess for sure, but all of your complaints are pretty moot, still. It didn't do anything that would really make an adult downright detest it more than any other average kid-show that mostly only appealed to kids.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
You only think that all of that stuff would appeal to most adults. It appeals to you as more of an adult because you grew up with it, just like how like how Looney Tunes would appeal to even a lot of old people since they grew up with it as kids and also have Universal appeal, but I guarantee you that most people who were already adults when the CC's you listed were in their prime would not be able to sit through them without getting bored, because it honestly doesn't appeal that much to people outside of the generation that they were intended for. Its the same reason why plenty of adults I know still have fond memories of stuff like Scooby-Doo, which I persoanlly find to be shit, while never being able to understand why I loved shows like Dexter's Lab and PPG.
I know my mom really liked Courage, EEnE, and Johnny Bravo, so I was basing that offa' personal experience kinda'.
QuoteThe first example is not good because the Toilenator usually didn't even have any single episodes completely dedicated to himself except for one, as far as I can recall, and that one episode ironically didn't even use that much toilet humor, unless you can give me a specific episode name that I can check out to prove that one. The 2nd example is merely only 1 example, and somehow I get the feeling that its from one of the seasons that I didn't even watch.
You're probably right. I was going to include in my first post that I didn't really remember the first two seasons all that well, but I forgot to.
QuoteNo, it was still just a last-minute twist. The jokes didn't revolve around the eye-crust because it wasn't revealed until the end. The dialogue didn't revolve around eye-crust since it wasn't revealed until the end. So, nice try, but unless the writing was at least hinting at eyecrust or some sort of toilet humor, which it wasn't since the writers weren't even creative enough to have subtle-hinting like that, your point still falls flat.
I thought it had some subtle hints about it? Maybe not. You're right for the most part, though.
QuoteFunny, I only recall 6 seasons ever airing. Perhaps you're splitting up some seasons, otherwise I'm referring to more than just the first 4 seasons, since I did watch at least two-thirds of the show before I stopped. And once again, all you did was state that it had recurring gags. Where are the examples of these recurring gags that the series lived off of that were more horrible than anything else airing at the time?
No, you're right, there were only 6. Maybe I split up certain seasons in my mind.
Just watch some of the episodes with a larger cast than usual. I don't really feel like arguing my point anymore, because it was more opinion than anything. The show is ass
to me, I hate what I remember of it. That doesn't mean other people can't like it, I just remember thinking the writing wasn't very good.
QuoteOK, But since you admit its opinion none of it really constitutes to the show being terrible beyond average, as you claimed it was. It just means that it didn't meet with your particular preferences.
That's been the whole point of my posts.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
A lot more people who were adults at the time did NOT get the appeal of a lot of CCs.
Yeah, and these were the same people who grew up with Bugs Bunny, Fred Flintstone, and Scooby Doo(like my parents), and yet they don't see the appeal of even the cartoons they grew up with. Something happened, there's some sort of generational shift or something, because most people that where born anywhere from the late-70's until the 90s accept cartoons more, whereas older folks tend to look down on them, even the ones they grew up with.
Quote from: Foggle on December 29, 2010, 05:51:51 PM
I know my mom really liked Courage, EEnE, and Johnny Bravo, so I was basing that offa' personal experience kinda'.
As did my dad like Johnny Bravo. But my mom hated just about every cartoon that I watched, and a lot of adults I knew told me that I should be growing out of those shows, and didn't approve of what they saw of it. Naturally I dismissed their comments and idiotic because I knew that most of them didn't understand the appeal of those shows. It doesn't mean that they don't appeal to adults, but they only appeal to adults who understood the appeal of such cartoons at the time, or to people like us who grew up with them as kids and understand their appeal beyond just nostalgia.
QuoteI thought it had some subtle hints about it?
Trust me, if that were the case then I'd have to say that you were giving the writers of this show too much credit. ;)
QuoteJust watch some of the episodes with a larger cast than usual. I don't really feel like arguing my point anymore, because it was more opinion than anything. The show is ass to me, I hate what I remember of it. That doesn't mean other people can't like it, I just remember thinking the writing wasn't very good.
Fair enough. I also don't feel like arguing about this show anymore, either. Its not like I was really a fan of it to begin with. I just thought it was fairly entertaining from what I did watch of it, personally.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on December 29, 2010, 05:54:54 PM
Yeah, and these were the same people who grew up with Bugs Bunny, Fred Flintstone, and Scooby Doo(like my parents), and yet they don't see the appeal of even the cartoons they grew up with. Something happened, there's some sort of generational shift or something, because most people that where born anywhere from the late-70's until the 90s accept cartoons more, whereas older folks tend to look down on them, even the ones they grew up with.
I was referring more to the fact that a lot of adults I knew at the time only saw the CC's for their more vulgar and crude humor (stuff that didn't necessarily ever strike me as vulgar or crude, but for some reason that's what I was told), and didn't get what was so brilliant about the best of them. The few adults that I knew who actually liked cartoons, at the time, such as my Uncle and even my school counselor, were the exceptions to the rule.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I loved it when I was younger, I just don't enjoy it anymore.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 05:08:16 PM
Nice try, but here's the problem, first of all I can already tell that you don't remember anything about this episode, you just read an earlier post that mentioned it and even that poster kind of exaggerated that episode since the plot didn't revolve around the eyecrust, it was just a reveal at the very end of the episode. There was no toilet humor about that until the last minute, literally. So yeah, that example also hurts your argument more than helps it. Next time it'd do you some good to get the facts straight on what you're referencing.
Well if I'm exaggerating about the episode with eye crust crumbles then clearly I don't remember anything else about the episode. And that's the thing, the show wasn't that memorable at least to me. I can still remember episodes of PPG, Johnny Bravo and even Foster's, but the only episode of KND that I really remember was the pilot. The only other things I do ever recall are the gross out gags sometimes used as plot devices and twists, and that doesn't settle with me. It's more like seeing a shock site for the first time, engraved into your mind. And as I said I know all other Cartoon Cartoons used toilet humor, especially Billy & Mandy, but usually as a sight gag rather than a twist or plot device.
I know a few adults and older teens who liked Cartoon Cartoons myself. My mom would watch Dexter, Powerpuff, Eds, Courage, and Billy & Mandy with me. She probably wouldn't now if I watched them again, but I know she especially liked Courage and could name a few episodes of each show that she liked. My uncle was a big Johnny Bravo fan and he also liked what I showed him of Dexter and EEnE. I remember seeing a bunch of college students sit around in my neighbor's house watching Justice Friends and laughing harder than I did. Even my father, who I rarely had contact with, told me once that he thought that Dexter and JB were good shows. And of course there's people like DarthGonzo.
I think the Cartoon Cartoons had appeal beyond kids or even nostalgia. I watched a lot of cartoons as a kid, but looking at what I watched then now, these are among the funniest. I think if Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, The Powerpuff Girls, Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, and Sheep in the Big City were made today in particular, I'd watch them regularly, and I'd watch a few others on an occasional basis.
I'd probably take these over Warner, Disney, or Nick's cartoons. I think only Rocko would stand up to these five in particular.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 29, 2010, 06:21:50 PM
I know a few adults and older teens who liked Cartoon Cartoons myself. My mom would watch Dexter, Powerpuff, Eds, Courage, and Billy & Mandy with me. She probably wouldn't now if I watched them again, but I know she especially liked Courage and could name a few episodes of each show that she liked. My uncle was a big Johnny Bravo fan and he also liked what I showed him of Dexter and EEnE. I remember seeing a bunch of college students sit around in my neighbor's house watching Justice Friends and laughing harder than I did. Even my father, who I rarely had contact with, told me once that he thought that Dexter and JB were good shows. And of course there's people like DarthGonzo.
I guess you guys had a very different experience then, because even to this day my parents don't understand how I can watch The Simpsons or King of the Hill, let alone old Nicktoons or the Cartoon Cartoons. Yeah, my dad watched cartoons as a kid, he talks about watching the Roadrunner cartoons or Rocky and Bullwinkle back in the 60s, but he see no appeal in the cartoons today.
And I was kind of including DG in my one post, since even though he's older than us, he did kind of grow up with the same late 80s and 90s cartoons that we did.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 29, 2010, 06:21:50 PM
I know a few adults and older teens who liked Cartoon Cartoons myself.
Yes, that's the key word. I also knew a "few" adults who liked CC's, all of whom were adults that understood the appeal of such cartoons in the first place.
QuoteI think the Cartoon Cartoons had appeal beyond kids or even nostalgia.
You're missing my point, though. I also acknowledged that they can appeal to adults and go beyond just nostalgia. My point though was that only adults who were into cartoons during that generation or people who grew up with cartoons of that generation really get their appeal. It doesn't necessarily appeal to all of the other masses in the same way that stuff like Spongebob or The Simpsons do, though, especially adults who aren't usually accepting of cartoons.
I think it varies on the person. My mom watched The Simpsons at it's peak when I was too young to and still watches repeats of it and KOTH with me now. She saw Coraline with me in theaters and enjoyed it, even commenting that she didn't think it was for kids. I also got her to watch Wall*E and Mask of the Phantasm with me at home. Same with my uncle, who loves Simpsons and goes to various Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks movies with me. He even bought the first Ren & Stimpy set.
I have members in my family who don't get my love of animation at all. I've been able to convince my mom that animation is a very active art form, and that the Looney Tunes and Disney films are especially important works, but some people will never be able to be convinced of this. And that's okay, it's their loss.
The point is that I hope everyone here can think differently then that, and that's why we're here/
Yeah, it really depends on the views of the specific person. Some people I know just don't understand that cartoons have essentially been able to appeal to adults since the beginning of animation (in fact a lot of original cartoons were specifically designed to appeal to adults, including a lot of the earliest Looney Tunes shorts, as well as a lot of silent stuff even predating that), and that's fine because since they didn't grow up with cartoons as a heavy influence, its understandable that they just, well....don't understand that its more than just for kids.
I think that certain shows such as the Simpsons have managed to break that barrier for many people, but there are still some people who remain unconvinced, and personally I'm fine enough with that, as long as they don't look down on others who do get enjoyment out of cartoons and animated works in general.
Watching the Sheep in the Big City pilot now. It's been a while since I've seen this, maybe since it originally aired back in 2000. I don't think it aired regularly with the show when they did show it.
From what I've seen of the show recently, it fits in alright with the rest of the series. Sheep's trademark fourth-wall breaking and pun-defying humor stayed in tact, but the three-act elements and television spoofs aren't here. That said, it's a mighty funny pilot, and I can see why it got picked up.
Holy shit, did I see Ruth Buzzi in the voice credits? Class.
Wow, this is a massive bump.
But I watched an episode of Time Squad for the first time in years, possibly a decade. I liked the show ,but it was never a favorite or really stuck to me. And after watching it again... that's pretty much how I still feel about it. It's still kinda funny, but nothing special. I don't think it was anyone's favorite, in fact.
Have any of you guys seen the show lately?
How are you watching it? Just on Youtube, or what?
...and no, I haven't seen it in probably a good 10 years or so myself. Same goes for Sheep, Robot Jones,, and a lot of the other short-lived stuff from that era (except Mike Lu and Og, which for some inexplicable reason airs on Boomerang at least once a year; I HAVE caught that fairly recently).
They put up an episode on CN's Video site, probably since it's time for Halloween and this one had Poe in it.
Huh.
That's weird that CN is actually acknowledging this show, considering they haven't touched it in at least 10 years. Do they do this every year? And what about Sheep and the like; anything from those up either?
Quote from: Kiddington on October 16, 2012, 07:05:30 PM
Huh.
That's weird that CN is actually acknowledging this show, considering they haven't touched it in at least 10 years. Do they do this every year? And what about Sheep and the like; anything from those up either?
Nope and nope.
Then again, I don't think Sheep had anything close to resembling a Halloween episode. They had to stretch for Time Squad too, but I guess they pulled it out this year for the network's 20th anniversary.
I don't really keep up with the recent Cartoon Network-related comics, but this is happening. (http://comicsalliance.com/cartoon-network-idw-super-secret-crisis-war-louise-simonson-derek-charm-crossover/)
This sounds pretty cool, actually. I got a free comic with "previews" of some of the comics they're making here, but those were really just reprints of Powerpuff, Samurai Jack and Ben 10 comic stories DC made instead. I'm partly interested in checking some of these out, though.
I love it when IDW does things like this. They probably are one of my favorite publishers out there with the way they handle their properties.
Yeah, I heard about the Samurai Jack comics. sounds like IDW is doing a lot of good.
Oh my god, yes! This looks awesome. I haven't paid attention to Cartoon Network comics since I was a kid, but I'll definitely look out for this whenever it comes out.
Out of the current ones, I can safely say Steven Universe has become this for me.
Huh. (http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/19564) Recently, Warner has been releasing cheapy singles for some of their cartoons, and they're doing some for a couple of CN originals, including of all choices, Chowder. Ben 10 and Powerpuff already have all of their episodes on DVD, but Chowder only had a couple of singles, yet I don't really get why they went with that.
It's too old for most kids to recognize and too young for parents to have a nostalgia attack over, not to mention how there's just about no reason for anyone in between to pick this up. Although I guess this is what to expect from Warner now, since their current belief is that anything animated can only appeal to children.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 29, 2010, 07:03:31 PM
Yeah, it really depends on the views of the specific person. Some people I know just don't understand that cartoons have essentially been able to appeal to adults since the beginning of animation (in fact a lot of original cartoons were specifically designed to appeal to adults, including a lot of the earliest Looney Tunes shorts, as well as a lot of silent stuff even predating that), and that's fine because since they didn't grow up with cartoons as a heavy influence, its understandable that they just, well....don't understand that its more than just for kids.
I think that certain shows such as the Simpsons have managed to break that barrier for many people, but there are still some people who remain unconvinced, and personally I'm fine enough with that, as long as they don't look down on others who do get enjoyment out of cartoons and animated works in general.
i guess thats understandable
but alot of toons in the 90s had alot of adult jokes in them (ren and stimpy being the most infamous)
i mean i recently rewatched courage the cowardly dog and i actualy got more of the references of the show as a teen than i would of as a kid (like how freeky fred is loosly based off of sweeny todd)
I'm not sure if this is really the right thread, since the show isn't technically considered a Cartoon Cartoon, but whatever, it's just a label and I don't think this fits in the worst CN originals thread. But to my point, I was able to experience Boomerang for a little today, and Foster's was on. While I still think that it's better than most of what the network was making at the time, I can safely say that my love affair is over with the show.
And it's sad too, since I appreciate that the show could go a long time without a joke. That's a trick from older sitcoms that you just don't see used as much, unless a show fancies itself as a dramedy, but at the same time, I don't think the characters are all that strong enough to hold that long without any big laughs. Mostly, it just meanders on and isn't all that fun to watch.
The only thing about the show I liked was the premiere movie, but the show ended up nothing like it.
It was probably doubly disappointing to me considering the pedigree behind it and the fact that I just didn't enjoy it. Of Craig McCracken's work, it's probably my least favorite by and far.
Funny, I'm still interested in seeing the show after the last time we talked about it and you know I fucking hated (ok, not that strong but still) that show.
I thought this thread was bumped so someone can post another list today so I might as well do it anyway:
5. Johnny Bravo
4. Powerpuff Girls
3. Courage
2. Ed, Edd 'n Eddy
1. Dexter
I haven't seen EEE in forever (thanks CN :unimpressed:) but my taste in cartoons has barely changed so I doubt I'd move it down. I've seen Courage here and there on Boomerang a few years ago, I believe, but I watched the show more than Johnny Bravo and heck, maybe even more than PPG, back in the day. They seemed to play The Cowardly Dog a lot back than, so I think my placement is safe with that one as well. I will forever hate Cow & Chicken. Also, Billy & Mandy has always bored me. I only like on CC episode (the pilot with the giant cigarette) and two BM episodes..ok, 3. The DBZ one, the pilot (more irony) and the clown episode.
Y'all know that the Ed boys will always be my #1, but my second place usually ties between Dexter, Johnny, Powerpuff, and Sheep. I like them all a lot, but it depends on my mood. Right now, I probably couldn't pick one, though. After those, I'd probably either go with Courage or Billy & Mandy, but probably Courage for now since I've seen more of it recently. I still like Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel pretty well, but I'm not sure if I'd watch them if they were made now, like I would if any of the others would. And my opinion on Time Squad has always stayed the same- there's some good things about it (mostly Mark Hamill as Larry 3000), but there isn't really enough about it that's special.
Of the other shows from that era, I don't really care. As for later CN originals, there are a solid handful that have good qualities about them (including Fosters), but I can't say that I care about any of them as much as the older shows.
Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, PPG, Courage, and the Eds, are my top five, I'd say. I probably couldn't pick an order for them, though.
As far as Foster's go, I still think "Good Wilt Hunting" and "Destination: Imagination" were pretty great, and I love the Jackie Khones and Bloo Superdude episodes. Outside of those episodes, though, my mileage with the show varies these days. I re-watched it all on Boomerang, and I simply didn't enjoy it consistently enough to ever really do it again, not to mention there are an unfortunate number of episodes I really can't stand to watch these days too.
On the subject of favorite cartoon cartoons, for me Billy and Many is probably my favorite, and it's the one I enjoy rewatching the most. Ed, Edd, n'Eddy is close behind as second, and then after that is probably Sheep, then Dexter, then PPG, then Courage. C&C and JB as a whole are kind of hit and miss for me these days.
As far as later CN shows go, I'd say Flapjack, Regular Show, and Clarence (young, yes, but it's already won me over) are the only ones I'd consider favorites, but I'd say I like them as much or more than PPG.
Oh yeah, I have to say that I actually enjoyed Flapjack quite a bit. I think it kind of got thrown out by CN a bit too early and forgotten for Regular Show and Adventure Time much too easily.
Also, Billy & Mandy had some really clever writing. I'm not that big on the first season, but I really enjoyed the rest. It was also a shame that Underfist didn't get a spin-off, but it made for a great finale for the show.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 23, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
Y'all know that the Ed boys will always be my #1, but my second place usually ties between Dexter, Johnny, Powerpuff, and Sheep. I like them all a lot, but it depends on my mood. Right now, I probably couldn't pick one, though. After those, I'd probably either go with Courage or Billy & Mandy, but probably Courage for now since I've seen more of it recently. I still like Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel pretty well, but I'm not sure if I'd watch them if they were made now, like I would if any of the others would. And my opinion on Time Squad has always stayed the same- there's some good things about it (mostly Mark Hamill as Larry 3000), but there isn't really enough about it that's special.
Of the other shows from that era, I don't really care. As for later CN originals, there are a solid handful that have good qualities about them (including Fosters), but I can't say that I care about any of them as much as the older shows.
I've watched very very little of Sheep. I think I've just seen a commercial or something so I keep on forgetting its existence. :sweat: Johnny Bravo stays at the bottom out of my 5 due to its quality and vision being filmsy too often. Funny, I could watch it endlessly (excluding the last season) and probably more frequently than the other shows but I can't say a lot of it is anything special. It's pretty much just stupid fun for the most part to me.
As for other comedy originals, I like Regular Show, Duck Dodgers and MAD. I seem to be the only one here who likes the latter but I thought it was a funny half hour show. Also, Robot Chicken, since its basically the same thing.
I enjoyed MAD as well. Some of the segments could be hit or miss, but that's to be expected from sketch comedies, and they came up with a lot of really funny episodes overall. And I also like Robot Chicken too.
I had a feeling you'd like it. :D You tend to like shows that I do but no one else does.
Since I posted my top favorite Nicktoons yesterday, I might as well do the same for Cartoon Network's stuff. I'm going to include the post-cartoon cartoons output too, since I might as well.
1. Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
2. The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
3. Dexter's Laboratory
4. Courage the Cowardly Dog
5. The Powerpuff Girls
6. Regular Show
7. Sheep in the Big City
8. Megas XLR
9. Johnny Bravo
10. Cow & Chicken
Unlike with the Nicktoons list, I didn't really have to stretch to make a top ten, and there are still a couple shows besides these that I quite like. No surprise, since I always did prefer Cartoon Network's stuff to Nickelodeon's.
1. Dexter's Laboratory
2. Courage the Cowardly Dog
3. The Powerpuff Girls
4. Johnny Bravo
5. Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
6. The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
7. Sheep in the Big City
8. The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack
9. Megas XLR
10. Cow & Chicken
Yep, that was much easier.
1. Megas
2. Courage
3. PPG
4. Johnny
5. Dexter
6. Ed
7. Sheep
8. Grim
9. 2SD (it may have not been a CN original, but shut up, I still watched it here)
10. Cow
1- Ed, Edd n' Eddy
2- Sheep in the Big City
3- Johnny Bravo
4- The Powerpuff Girls
5- Dexter's Laboratory
6- The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
7- Courage the Cowardly Dog
8- Sym-Bionic Titan
9- Adventure Time
10- Samurai Jack
One of these days, I'll give Megas another chance, as well as go back into Flapjack. 2 Stupid Dogs and Space Ghost deserve honorable mentions.
1. samurai jack, the greatest cartoon of all time 2. dexter 3. ed, edd 'n eddy 4. courage 5.regular show 6. sym-bionic titan 7. star wars 8. johnny bravo 9. ppg 10. megas. i am definitely another cartoon network kid. edit: i looked back 2 pages on this phone and saw that i mentioned duck dodgers and robot chicken. put dd at 4. or 5. and i can't place robot chicken now since my rekindled love for it may be clouding my judgment.
2 Stupid Dogs was so great. I really wish that would get a DVD release.
Oh, this reminds me, I hope you guys will still be in a list ranking mood in a few days, since I may have another CN-related one for you guys to participate in.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 26, 2014, 09:54:12 PM
Oh, this reminds me, I hope you guys will still be in a list ranking mood in a few days, since I may have another CN-related one for you guys to participate in.
Well, I know 3 of us in particular who have "especially" been in a list-ranking mood as of late.[/in-joke] :humhumhum:
Quote from: gunswordfist on August 26, 2014, 08:57:52 PM
1. samurai jack, the greatest cartoon of all time 2. dexter 3. ed, edd 'n eddy 4. courage 5.regular show 6. sym-bionic titan 7. star wars 8. johnny bravo 9. ppg 10. megas. i am definitely another cartoon network kid. edit: i looked back 2 pages on this phone and saw that i mentioned duck dodgers and robot chicken. put dd at 4. or 5. and i can't place robot chicken now since my rekindled love for it may be clouding my judgment.
I totally forgot about Duck Dodgers as well, but it's a WBA series, not a CN studios one, so I probably wouldn't count it, though it ranks as one of my favorite comedy cartoons CN has ever aired. As far as
Robot Chicken goes, that's an [adult swim] original, which I feel should have a different list entirely.
Yeah, if we're talking shows which premiered original episodes on CN, Brave & the Bold and Mystery Incorporated would definitely make my list. Justice League likely would, as well.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 26, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
Yeah, if we're talking shows which premiered original episodes on CN, Brave & the Bold and Mystery Incorporated would definitely make my list. Justice League likely would, as well.
If we're doing non-CC CN shows?
1. Batman: TB&TB
2. Justice League
3. 2 Stupid Dogs
4. Duck Dodgers
5. Space Ghost
After that it would probably be a mish-mash.
1. Batman: TB&TB
2. Justice League
3. Megas XLR
4. Green Lantern: The Animated Series
5. 2 Stupid Dogs
If I was to make a list of my favorite non-CN studios CN shows, then:
1. Batman: The Brave and the Bold
2. Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
3. Justice League
4. Duck Dodgers
5. Green Lantern: The Animated Series
I'm not counting 2 Stupid Dogs because it was originally a TBS show.
1- Batman: The Brave & the Bold
2- Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated
3- Space Ghost Coast to Coast
4- Justice League
5- Duck Dodgers
2 Stupid Dogs would probably be between Space Ghost and Dodgers.
just see my superhero list, take out what doesn't count, put duck dodgers above gl and megas around the bottom.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 26, 2014, 09:54:12 PM
Oh, this reminds me, I hope you guys will still be in a list ranking mood in a few days, since I may have another CN-related one for you guys to participate in.
Or, why wait? (http://unofficialcartoonnetwork.tumblr.com/post/95887539741/cartoon-network-hall-of-fame-year-1-election-phase)
Feel free to post your lists here or via PM, if you so wish. ;)
I submitted a list via my own tumblr account, if that's all right. :)
Perfect! I could tell it was you the second I checked it out. ;)
If you want some time to come up with a list, don't be afraid. You don't have to rush one out!