So, I have to admit, I wasn't really all that into this genre of games before this generation. That isn't to say that I wasn't interested in any games in the genre before, but that I just hadn't really gotten around to playing any. I'm still not that experienced with these types of games, but I have been getting into different horror themed games, though to be honest none of them mentally scare me when I play them despite the best efforts. The best ones, though, can build up a creepy atmosphere that can make for a successful jump scare every now and then.
The most popular games from this genre are obviously the Resident Evil games (at least before 4), and while I haven't ever played one from start to finish, I have played bits and pieces of them and have watched friends play them and they are pretty good at setting up an effectively creepy atmosphere, but at the same time some of the bosses or other enemy types can border on ridiculous to the point of taking out any potential scare-factor just on the grounds of those kinds of things alone making me take the games less seriously.
I played Alan Wake not too long back and really enjoyed it. I haven't played that much of any Silent Hill games, but what I did play of the original Silent Hill did scare the crap out of me back in the day.
My current game is Dead Space, and I'm really enjoying it, and that has a lot to do with how well they built up the atmosphere in this game. It reminds me a lot of movies like Alien and The Thing, among other obvious influences to this game's design, and I really love how well the brilliant sound effects complement the design of the entire space station. The game also reminds me quite a bit of BioShock with its whole style of level design, and just the feeling of exploring a large colony that's not on land, except instead of underwater its in space. Overall its a really interesting experience, so far.
I've been meaning to play other horror themed games, from Survival Horror games to other games that are just plain horror, like Fatal Frame, or other games in which you don't even really get conventional weapons and such to blast enemies apart and just have to rely on being able to avoid anything that can rip you limb from limb or even just creep the fuck out of you. I'm open to any suggestions provided that I can actually access them on something that I own, which I realize makes for quite limited options.
It was Deadly Premonition that got me interested in the genre. That game engrossed me from start to finish, and I've been meaning to get into more games in the genre.
It's too bad that this gen is apparently a really rough one on the genre, and that good games are few and far between, because it just recently clicked for me at why these games are good.
If you're looking for some good horror based games I can offer some recommendations.
Resident Evil (GC) - The remake of the original Resident Evil is, in my opinion, the best RE game to date. Yes, I like it even more than RE4. The atmosphere of the game was perfect and the graphics still hold up today.
Silent Hill 2 (PS2) - Though I find it kind of overrated, Silent Hill 2 tells a great character driven story.
Silent Hill 3 (PS2) - My personal favorite game in the Silent Hill franchise. It's a direct sequel to the first Silent Hill, but you don't HAVE to have played the original to enjoy it (I didn't play the original until I got a PS3). Amazing graphics and a really creepy atmosphere.
Silent Hill 4: The Room (PS2) - The black sheep of the Silent Hill franchise. SH4 does a lot of things wrong and it's my least favorite of the Silent Hill franchise but it still tells a pretty interesting story and is worth playing once.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (Wii) - It's really not all that scary but this is an amazing game. My second favorite Silent Hill game, just after SH3.
Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly (PS2) - Hands down, the scariest game I've ever played.
Dead Space/Dead Space 2 (360/PS3) - This is the level of horror RE4/RE5 should have been. The scares do eventually get predictable, but the first half of the game really does keep you on your toes. Great atmosphere. The scariest parts of the game is when nothing is happening.
The original Silent Hill and Resident Evil, both available on the PlayStation Store, are worth checking out if you want to see where each series got its start. But I can't say they've aged very well.
Silent Hill 2 has an excellent story, but the scare factor is fairly entry-level. I agree with you that 3 is by far the franchise's best; it's the only one that managed to creep me out.
The original Silent Hill is fine for the most part. The original Resident Evil, on the other hand...
Fatal Frame 2-4 are the most intense horror games ever made, IMO. Scary as hell from beginning to end; so much so that I legitimately have a hard time playing them alone. The first one is also good, but the cheesy dubbing kinda' ruins it at times.
The first two Penumbra games are also terrifying, though the third one is trash. Not as scary as Fatal Frame, but damn close. The dog at the beginning of Overture is one of the greatest shit-your-pants moments in gaming. On that note, Amnesia is damn scary, as well. That game will fuck with your head like no other -- except for Eternal Darkness, which actually produces amazing meta-scares.
Seriously, you can't go wrong with any of those games.
I stopped playing Dead Space about a month ago. Its not even that I got tired of it or anything, but IDK, I just don't feel compelled to keep going for some reason. I'll pick it up again soon and try to finish it, one of these days, and I'm sure that I can get back into it, but maybe this is the type of game that's better suited to be a bit shorter than it is. I suppose after a while I get used to the atmosphere, and then the scares become predictable, and then it just turns into another corridor shooters. A decent one, at that, but it still all begins to feel very standard to me.
I actually have Fatal Frame 3, I just haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I also have Haunting Ground, another one I haven't gotten around to yet, but I've heard good things about it.
Well, I have a Dreamcast (and now a Saturn), so I'm hoping there are a lot of cheap horror games out there for the systems that I can try out (like D) before trying out the more popular ones (which seem to be way too pricey right now)..
Horror-wise, Condemned freaked the fuck out of me, and that's apparently tame stuff.
Quote from: Desensitized on July 02, 2011, 03:15:14 PM
Horror-wise, Condemned freaked the fuck out of me, and that's apparently tame stuff.
I'd say it's around the middle tier; on par with REmake, Doom 3, and Silent Hill 3. The bear part in 2 was HOLYFUCKOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD, though. Tame would be stuff like SH 2/Homecoming, F.E.A.R., Fear Effect, and Alan Wake, IMO.
Yeah, to be honest, Alan Wake isn't scary at all, and I never found any F.E.A.R. game to be scary, so it neither surprised nor bothered me in the least when I heard that the sequels weren't scary either. I'll be honest, I just play the F.E.A.R. games for the gameplay. I actually didn't pay too much attention to the story past the first game, honestly.
Here's my scare factor tier list for all the horror games I've played extensively enough to form an opinion! Remember, this is all based on my personal experience. Your mileage may vary, etc.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.tinypic.com%2F29455s3.png&hash=75ac506d298ef73a7240767be559fb9e7e27e42e)
To be honest, I wasn't even aware that BioShock was considered to be a horror game. If it is, then I suppose I can obviously totally agree with it being not scary at all....but it was really part of the horror genre? I mean, the atmosphere was intentionally a tad bit creepy but I felt that they really didn't make it out to be a horror game at all.
As far as the first Dead Space goes, maybe its just me but I feel so far that its legitimately good with its scares so far, even if a good number of them are predictable. It also deserves more props for its legitimately creepy atmosphere and brilliant use of sound effects, so I'd honestly put it in the mid-tier category in terms of actually being scary, but to be fair, it may not be scary at all on replays once you know exactly what to expect, but then again I'd argue that that applies to almost all horror games out there to begin with, so going by what I can tell of the game on a first time playthrough, its pretty good at being scary.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 02, 2011, 08:14:58 PM
To be honest, I wasn't even aware that BioShock was considered to be a horror game. If it is, then I suppose I can obviously totally agree with it being not scary at all....but it was really part of the horror genre? I mean, the atmosphere was intentionally a tad bit creepy but I felt that they really didn't make it out to be a horror game at all.
Well, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock 2 (one of the scariest games of all time), and the atmosphere is pretty dark/creepy, so I just assumed it was part of the horror genre. Maybe it's not. :SHOCK:
QuoteAs far as the first Dead Space goes, maybe its just me but I feel so far that its legitimately good with its scares so far, even if a good number of them are predictable. It also deserves more props for its legitimately creepy atmosphere and brilliant use of sound effects, so I'd honestly put it in the mid-tier category in terms of actually being scary, but to be fair, it may not be scary at all on replays once you know exactly what to expect, but then again I'd argue that that applies to almost all horror games out there to begin with, so going by what I can tell of the game on a first time playthrough, its pretty good at being scary.
A lot of people would agree with you, but, honestly, the first Dead Space rarely fazed me. The sound design was great, as was the atmosphere, but it only made me jump a couple of times. I don't consider all the games in the lowest section to be completely un-scary, but if I only jumped or got creeped out a few times, it shouldn't be put in the middle section, IMO. A lot of people would probably put Dead Space 2 in the lowest section, but that one actually got to me quite a bit more than the first one did, hence my unusual ranking.
OH SHIT I DOWNLOADED THE SIREN DEMO FOR PS3 AND FOUND THE PS2 ONE CHEAP.
AM NOW SELLING :shit:
Quote from: Desensitized on July 02, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
OH SHIT I DOWNLOADED THE SIREN DEMO FOR PS3 AND FOUND THE PS2 ONE CHEAP.
AM NOW SELLING :shit:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know, man, you should give it a go. Not everyone thinks the Siren games are absolutely terrifying (but I certainly do). Though it might be for the best if you sold the PS2 Siren; it's excellent and scary, yes, but it's also frustrating and tedious as all hell. The PS3 version is a lot more palatable, IMO.
Oh, right, I forgot about the Condemned games! Those ones are good too. Condemned 1 is the better game. Condemned 2 has better gameplay, but the story just gets really silly and by the time you start screaming to make enemies heads explode (I'm serious) you can't really be all that scared of the game. Condemned 2 is still worth playing, mind you.
I actually own the Siren remake for the PS3 as well, which I had imported from Japan. I haven't gotten all that far in it, but the sightjacking thing can provide some good scares when you see yourself through the eyes of your enemies.
I don't think BioShock was ever meant to be a horror game, but the atmosphere was pretty spooky. It did manage to make me jump once or twice too.
And I agree with you Foggle, I actually find Dead Space 2 to be scarier than the first game. I found the scares less predictable and it was making me still jump well into the game. I still found Dead Space decently scary though, at least for the first half of the game.
I have Condemned 2. It's a pretty rough around the edges game. Overall fun, not scary at all though. I hate how you can't use hand to hand combat at all at the last level. So stupid
Thank god I read the article instead of just the title. (http://www.destructoid.com/fatal-frame-3ds-spin-off-uses-system-camera-210275.phtml) I almost had to buy a 3DS for a second there.
Seriously, though, a legit Fatal Frame 3DS game would blow my fucking mind. This just sounds dumb.
My friend bought Silent Hill: Downpour, and I got a chance to play/watch the first two hours yesterday. It has a lot of really cool ideas, and it's easily better than any of the games since 3, but it's extremely unpolished.
What I liked:
- The Nightmare World sections are genius. Very creative, surreal, and exciting.
- Level design so far has been excellent. Just the right amount of puzzles, backtracking, and optional branching paths to keep things interesting.
- Puzzles appear to have obvious solutions but usually end up being more complicated than they look.
- The music is awesome. On par with Yamaoka's, even.
- Atmosphere is spot on. The game isn't scary, but it definitely feels like the original trilogy.
What I didn't like:
- Melee combat is abysmal. It basically boils down to flailing around with easily breakable weapons performed by intense button mashing. You will probably have to heal after almost every single fight... and the game seems to know this, as it gives you a medkit either before or after most encounters.
- Lots of frame rate drops. Major ones, too. It's not uncommon for the game to turn into a slideshow in certain areas.
- Sometimes the game lets you make choices during cutscenes. These choices don't actually matter because the story will always play out the exact same way no matter which option you choose.
- Loooooooong load times. Be prepared to wait 1-2 minutes per load screen.
- Sometimes you will freeze in place after getting hit by an enemy, forcing you to load a saved game.
But it seems to be pretty good overall, in spite of its problems.
That combat sounds dreadful, and the health kit thing sounds like it could remove a lot of tension from the combat.
Silent Hill strikes out again in the combat area.
As far as combat in Downpour goes: stick with the double axe. It's strong and it's durable. It's pretty much the only weapon in the game I've been using.
I just finished Silent Hill Downpour.
The wonky combat, bad framerate spots, and crappy save system aside, I love it. Easily the best "traditional" Silent Hill game (so not counting Shattered Memories) since SH3.
Glad to hear that it stays consistently excellent throughout. :)
I'm watching a video of Silent Hill HD Collection. Does it really not have tank controls? It doesn't look like it.
Don't buy the HD Collection. It's a broken piece of shit.
By default, SH 2 and 3 have tank controls. But you can switch to a "directional" scheme from the options menu, which is a lot more user-friendly.
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
Don't buy the HD Collection. It's a broken piece of shit.
By default, SH 2 and 3 have tank controls. But you can switch to a "directional" scheme from the options menu, which is a lot more user-friendly.
Why don't the RE games offer this?
Unfortunately if I want to play these games I might have to consider it eventually. It's not like Konami is ever going to re-port them being as lazy and useless as they are.
Yeah, the HD Collection is really disheartening because it's obvious Konami really didn't give a shit. It's so slapped together it's embarrassing. I wish I knew that before I went and bought it but at least I got the 360 version and not the PS3 version, which has even more bugs and glitches.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 12:28:40 AM
Unfortunately if I want to play these games I might have to consider it eventually. It's not like Konami is ever going to re-port them being as lazy and useless as they are.
I'd recommend the PC versions instead. You'll want a controller and you have to set 2 to run using only one core (which takes like 15 seconds and 3 mouse clicks of work), but they're probably the best versions of the games available. They have the graphics and extra content of the HD collection but with none of the bugs and design flaws.
Plus they have the original voices which are so much better. It's true that the HD Collection offers the original voices for Silent Hill 2 but they don't for Silent Hill 3.
What the hell? I can see replacing the voices for SH 2 (they're pretty bad), but 3 has great voice acting!
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:38:59 AM
What the hell? I can see replacing the voices for SH 2 (they're pretty bad), but 3 has great voice acting!
They sure did. And no option to hear the original voices. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0JUqrZoYM)
I'll just wait to find the thing cheap. It shouldn't take that long.
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:38:59 AM
What the hell? I can see replacing the voices for SH 2 (they're pretty bad), but 3 has great voice acting!
They didn't have a choice. The voice actors' contracts didn't cover re-releases. It's the same reason we didn't get the Mega Man Legends games re-released.
It's true. They were able to get in contact with the original cast of SH2 which is why they were able to offer the original voices for that game but apparently they weren't able to do the same with SH3.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
I'll just wait to find the thing cheap. It shouldn't take that long.
Keep in mind that the absence of fog will completely ruin the experience. I just can't see the game being anywhere near as creepy or atmospheric with the fog gone. Why not pick up the PS2 versions?
Quote from: Eddy on April 26, 2012, 12:42:14 AM
They sure did. And no option to hear the original voices. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0JUqrZoYM)
Wtf, Heather's new actor sounds like she's rushing her lines...
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:46:33 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
I'll just wait to find the thing cheap. It shouldn't take that long.
Keep in mind that the absence of fog will completely ruin the experience. I just can't see the game being anywhere near as creepy or atmospheric with the fog gone. Why not pick up the PS2 versions?
The fog is still there, it's just not as foggy as it was in the PS2 version. for dumb reasons.
I would get the PS2 versions if I could find them. But unfortunately, I
can't. And everywhere online has them more pricey than current gen games.
http://www.gohastings.com/product/GAME/Silent-Hill-2/sku/143893388.uts?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingsite&utm_campaign=videogames&CAWELAID=696917966
https://www.textbooksrus.com/search/video-game/video-game-detail.aspx?ean=0083717200529&kbid=1434&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=0083717200529&utm_campaign=localinventory
There you go. ;)
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:55:25 AM
http://www.gohastings.com/product/GAME/Silent-Hill-2/sku/143893388.uts?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingsite&utm_campaign=videogames&CAWELAID=696917966
https://www.textbooksrus.com/search/video-game/video-game-detail.aspx?ean=0083717200529&kbid=1434&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=0083717200529&utm_campaign=localinventory
There you go. ;)
They don't deliver to Canada. :P
I have to use specific Canadian sites that always have worse deals and inflated prices to you guys AND most of those don't ship to PO boxes. It's why I don't buy online much.
What, that sucks. :( Canada is part of North America, so I can't see why they wouldn't deliver to you guys...
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 01:00:23 AM
What, that sucks. :( Canada is part of North America, so I can't see why they wouldn't deliver to you guys...
I say the same!
But I don't get Hulu, have inferior Netflix, less to no deals in online stores, and most don't even ship to my area when they do. It's hard being a bargain hunter when you can't get most bargains! :D
Shinji Mikami is at work a new game that he claims will be "a true survival horror" titled Zwei. (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-11540-Bethesda-Officially-Announce-Resident-Evil-Creator-s-New-Game--Zwei.html)
:swoon:
Quote from: Eddy on April 26, 2012, 06:59:47 PM
Shinji Mikami is at work a new game that claims will be "a true survival horror" titled Zwei. (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-11540-Bethesda-Officially-Announce-Resident-Evil-Creator-s-New-Game--Zwei.html)
:swoon:
:swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
I didn't know he left PlatinumGames.
Even though I've barely played any games in the genre (oh shit, I think Sweet Home and Resident Evil 3 are the only ones I've beaten. :unimpressed: ) I'm a sucker for the genre. I'd buy it even if it had tank controls and PS2 graphics.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 26, 2012, 07:38:50 PM
I'm a sucker for the genre.
You. Fatal Frame. Siren. Amnesia. Penumbra. Now. :thinkin:
Alright Alright.
My friend used to have a recording of me playing Fatal Frame 4 and totally freaking out during this one boss fight. "HOLY FUCK WHERE DID SHE GO OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD" *boss pops up behind me* "SHITFUCKINGCHRIST!" It was so hilarious. He accidentally deleted every single video on his phone, though. :(
:D That's too bad.
Konami is apparently working on a patch to fix the framerate and auto-save issues with Silent Hill Downpour and the plethora of problems with the HD Collection.
Oh, and I kind of wish I had video of my reaction playing Fatal Frame 2 for the first time. That's the only horror game I've played where I was scared even after I turned the game off.
You should have seen me playing Condemned for the first time. Yeesh.
Quote from: Eddy on April 27, 2012, 12:04:16 AM
Konami is apparently working on a patch to fix the framerate and auto-save issues with Silent Hill Downpour and the plethora of problems with the HD Collection.
Sigh...
Konami.
Quote from: Eddy on April 27, 2012, 12:05:22 AM
Oh, and I kind of wish I had video of my reaction playing Fatal Frame 2 for the first time. That's the only horror game I've played where I was scared even after I turned the game off.
First time I played FF 2, I did so with the same dude who filmed me playing 4. We were both still scared after turning it off, too. :lol:
Great horror games really are masterful experiences. A video game making someone feel true fear... that's quite an accomplishment. That alone puts horror in my top 3 VG genres. :)
Oh yeah, have you guys heard about this? (http://scpcb.wordpress.com/) That SCP stuff is pretty interesting, but those alpha graphics are kinda' not terrifying enough. Eagerly awaiting the full release!
That baby doll is giving me flashbacks to the mannequins in Condemned that followed you each time the lights flickered. :shit:
Dead Space 3 is going to have co-op because nothing says Dead Space like having a buddy to watch your back.
And human enemies. That will use guns and grenades.
And Isaac can duck, roll, and take cover like Gears of War.
:whuh:
Well. It was a good survival horror franchise while it lasted.
Quote from: Eddy on May 09, 2012, 12:12:49 PM
Dead Space 3 is going to have co-op because nothing says Dead Space like having a buddy to watch your back.
Hopefully it won't be forced. :srs:
QuoteAnd human enemies. That will use guns and grenades.
I actually thought Dead Space 2 could have used some human enemies a couple of times near the end. But this will be a very bad thing if they're prominent in 3...
QuoteAnd Isaac can duck, roll, and take cover like Gears of War.
Eh, that just makes him more maneuverable. Not a big deal IMO.
Being able to take cover doesn't bother me too much either but it's the human enemies and the co-op that has me worried. If the co-op isn't forced and playing it on co-op just has another Isaac there or something, okay, that's fine I guess. But if it takes the RE5 approach and forces a AI partner on you that will just be bad.
The human enemies can be turned into necromorphs which is kind of cool but I don't want a bunch of areas with human enemies firing a storm of bullets at you. It worked in the few places they had in Dead Space 2 but an overabundance of it would kill the game.
This discussion reminds me that I still need to beat Dead Space 1, which I got to like Chapter 6 of before I stopped playing. I didn't dislike the game or anything, but admittedly it got a little tiring after a while. Its been a full year since I last played it, though, so I should be able to enjoy it again, now, but I'll need to take some time to adjust to the controls and whatnot, again.
I'm in the minority of people who thought that Dead Space 2 was a lot scarier and more interesting than the original. You should at least give the sequel a try eventually. ;D
I also thought Dead Space 2 was a lot scarier than the original Dead Space. In the first Dead Space the scares eventually got predictable. "Oh, a big, empty room. Enemies are going to pop up here." Dead Space 2, on the other, I felt kept things fresh and continued to surprise me right up to the end of the game.
You know what NEEDS to be made? A Fatal Frame for the Wii U. Think about it. The tablet would be the camera.
Quote from: Eddy on May 19, 2012, 03:23:16 AM
You know what NEEDS to be made? A Fatal Frame for the Wii U. Think about it. The tablet would be the camera.
I said the same thing about the 3DS. Then that 2 hour mini-game collection that has to be played in a fully lit room named Spirit Camera came out. :wth:
On another note, I honestly think that the Fatal Frame 2 Wii remake looks worse than the original version. The polygon count is slightly higher, sure, but everything I've seen from the remake is too... clean? Not sure how to describe it. The protagonists (and even some of the ghosts!) look less creepy and more cute, and it seems like they've removed the strange graphical filters that amplified the mood/atmosphere in 1-4. Also, the original dub was excellent, and the new one sounds too different (but still good, don't get me wrong) for me to get into it.
Not to mention that Fatal Frame 2 PS2 control scheme > Fatal Frame 4 Wii control scheme.
Nintendo bought the Fatal Frame franchise.
Seeing how Fatal Frame 4 was never released here and they seem to have no plans on bringing the Fatal Frame 2 remake here, I guess we can say goodbye to any Fatal Frame games in the US. :whuh:
Fuck you, Nintendo. (Oh wow; kinda' weird saying that. I feel dirty now.)
Quote from: Eddy on June 22, 2012, 12:04:32 AM
Seeing how Fatal Frame 4 was never released here and they seem to have no plans on bringing the Fatal Frame 2 remake here
And yet they bring over fucking SPIRIT CAMERA, the worst game in the entire series...
I won't lose hope, though. Rumor is, Nintendo refused to fund English localization for FF 4 because it was too buggy. Tecmo was lazy and didn't want to fix any of its problems (I haven't encountered a single glitch myself, though), so it never came out in the west. As for FF 2, it already has an English version on the PS2... which, from what I've seen thus far, is still superior.
Those wanting to try out a horror game might want to play Slender (http://www.parsecproductions.net/slender/). It's a free game available to both PC and Mac based on Slender Man, a "creepypasta" story from Something Awful forums. Knowledge about Slender Man isn't really needed to play the game.
The game puts you in a forest in the middle of nowhere and you're tasked with collecting eight pages that have been left on various landmarks throughout the map. Their location changes each time you play so you won't find the pages in the same place constantly. As you look for the pages you are pursued by Slender Man, a tall, skinny, humanoid figure that wears a black suit and has a featurless, pale, white face. With each page you find his pursuit becomes more and more aggressive. The screen will flicker and emit static when he is nearby, warning you. If he catches you, or if you look at him for too long, the game ends.
You have no weapons and no way to defend yourself. All you can do is run, look for the pages, and hope you aren't caught. The forest is dark, making it hard to traverse, which heightens the tension and fear. You have a flashlight but keeping it on for too long will cause it to dim. You can also sprint but your stamina runs low fairly quickly.
This is one scary game.
Slender is a good concept, stopped being scary for me after a couple playthroughs though. And it's optimized like absolute shit.
I'm sure Slender: Source will be much better.
So, for shits and giggles, what's everyone's horror game collection? Here's mine! (And I'll be using the term "horror" very loosely. Basically any game that seemed to scare people even if I didn't classify it as a horror game.)
NES:
Friday the 13th
PS2:
Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly
Fatal Frame III
Haunting Ground
Silent Hill 0rigins
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3
Silent Hill 4: The Room
Siren
GameCube:
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requim
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Code Veronica X
Resident Evil 4
DS:
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence
360:
Alan Wake
BioShock
BioShock 2 (evidently some people consider the BioShock games scary?)
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Condemned 2: Bloodshot
Deadly Premonition
Dead Space
Dead Space 2
DOOM
DOOM 2
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City :wth:
Resident Evil 4 HD
Resident Evil 5
Resident Evil 6
Shadows of the Damned
Silent Hill: Homecoming
Silent Hill: Downpour
The Walking Dead
PS3:
Resident Evil: Director's Cut (PS1)
Resident Evil 3 (PS1)
Silent Hill (PS1)
Siren: New Translation
Wii:
Calling
Cursed Mountain
Dead Space: Extraction
Ju-On: The Grudge: Haunted House Simulator
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
I'm always looking to increase my horror game collection! However, I have a computer not really fit to run games for the time being so I have to miss out on games like Amnesia.
Awesome collection! :joy: My list is a bit different... I'm only counting stuff that would actually be considered "horror" by most audiences, so no BioShock, RE5/6, Yakuza Dead Souls, etc. Also, not all of these games that I own on PC are exclusive to it (only a few are, actually), so you could still pick them up if you wanted.
Alan Wake (PC) - I also have American Nightmare, but I don't think that one is actually a horror game
Amnesia: The Dark Descent (PC)
Cold Fear (PC)
Condemned: Criminal Origins (PC)
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (360)
Cryostasis (PC)
Cursed Mountain (Wii)
Dead Space (PC)
Dead Space 2 (PC)
Dino Crisis (DC)
Doom 3 (PC)
Fatal Frame (PS2)
Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly (PS2)
Fatal Frame 3 (PS2)
Fatal Frame 4: Mask Of The Lunar Eclipse (Wii)
F.E.A.R. (PC)
F.E.A.R.: Extraction Point (PC)
F.E.A.R.: Perseus Mandate (PC)
F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin (PC)
F.E.A.R. 3 (PC)
Metro 2033 (PC)
Penumbra: Overture (PC)
Penumbra: Black Plague (PC)
Penumbra: Requiem (PC)
Resident Evil: Director's Cut (PSN)
Resident Evil [Remake] (Wii)
Resident Evil 2 (PS1)
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (PS1)
Resident Evil 4 (Wii)
Silent Hill (PSN)
Silent Hill 2 (PC)
Silent Hill 3 (PC)
Siren: Blood Curse (PS3)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow Of Chernobyl (PC)
The Suffering (PC)
The Suffering: Ties That Bind (PC)
System Shock 2 (PC)
I've been looking into Haunting Ground, Eternal Darkness, and Calling. Any of those three worth picking up?
I have some zombie games(Dead Rising 1/2, Dead Island, House of the Dead Overkill, Red Undead Redemption, Lollipop Chainsaw), but that's really it honestly.
Ok, I don't know about Lollipop Chainsaw, that may or may not have been a joke.
My collection is pretty small. I only have:
F.E.A.R.
F.E.A.R. 2
Resident Evil 4
Hunter: The Reckoning
Alan Wake
Dead Space (which is technically my brother's, but he doesn't play it anymore)
I had a shit-ton of fun playing that game with my brother and his friend on co-op (its up to 4-players), but its pretty damn hard for me on single-player since the game doesn't seem to scale down for less players. I still had some fun with it, though. Its a hack n' slash game but its combat is far more shallow than something like NG or DMC or even God of War so I'd say its main strengths lie in its co-op.
Cool, maybe I'll pick that up sometime if I can convince any of my friends to play it with me. ;)
Yeah, I certainly thought it was a fun game, but I also remember it being challenging in some bizarre ways. For instance, your character gets stronger as the game goes along, but if you die you lose all of your enhanced attributes which is kind of ridiculous. I think you could still make it through the game even if your character reverts back to their original stats, but it certainly makes it a lot harder and more tedious during the boss fights.
I have the game with me so I may just play it a bit again to see how well it holds up.
Any Clock Tower fans here?
I also have Luigi's Mansion if you count that. I guess it's the closest to "horror" as a Mario game has ever gotten. :happytime:
Quote from: Foggle on October 14, 2012, 10:54:46 AMI've been looking into Haunting Ground, Eternal Darkness, and Calling. Any of those three worth picking up?
Eternal Darkness is definitely worth picking up if only for the creative "sanity meter" and seeing all the wild things it can do to your game. Truth be told, I never beat it because I selected the "hard" difficulty without knowing it and got stuck at a boss fight. But I keep meaning to go back and start up a new game.
Haunting Ground I have yet to play but I picked up at a GameStop one day because I had heard it's fairly uncommon. Seems like it could be good though. It's my understanding that it was made based on one of the scrapped versions of Resident Evil 4. I know it has somewhat of a Clock Tower approach where your character is stalked throughout a castle by someone, in this case a mentally disabled giant with the mind of a child who thinks you're a doll for him to play with. You can hide and hope he doesn't find you and you also team up with a dog who becomes your companion throughout the game.
Calling is hard to say if it's worth picking up or not. It's definitely not perfect but there's something about it that I like. It's very much like The Grudge game if The Grudge game wasn't complete trash and with a dash of Fatal Frame. It has some good scares and can be pretty creepy. For example, one stage takes place in a seemingly empty school. You awaken in a dark music room, all alone, and make your way into the hallway where you can hear the distant jiggle of a cell phone. When you pick it up you hear a girl whisper, through the Wii remote speaker, "That'sss my phone. I'm coming to get it. Okay?" and as you wander the school the girl keeps calling you telling you where she is and that she's getting closer. "I'm at the staircase on the second floor..." It's pretty unerving! :SHOCK:
Calling is fairly rare too, from what I understand.
Calling sounds pretty sweet. I love weird Eastern horror like that. :lol: Thanks!
Go for it! If nothing else it's a pretty unique Wii game that not many people have. :D
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 14, 2012, 01:51:07 PM
Any Clock Tower fans here?
The only Clock Tower I've played is the original for the SNES/Super Famicom via ROM. I beat with the best ending and I enjoyed it quite a bit but never really looked into the other games in the series. Which is funny seeing how the other ones have had US releases. I just know Clock Tower 3 seems really goofy.
I didn't know Stalker was a horror game.
Monolith Soft and Monolith Productions need to make a horror JRPG together. They can name it Xenophobia.
Hey, look, an Indonesian indie game that looks veeeeery similar to Fatal Frame!
http://www.indiedb.com/games/dreadout/downloads/dreadout-demo
I haven't tried the demo yet, but I hear good things, so maybe you should check it out...!
So I finally played that demo and it was pretty damn good! Had a couple of issues with it, but for an early build of a company's first game, it's extremely impressive. Actually got me a couple of times, too, though admittedly I scare pretty easily when it comes to this stuff.
Will definitely be picking up the full version.
Have any of you guys played Eternal Darkness? I've heard that it's a great Gamecube game, but I want to know how you guys feel about it before I think about picking it up.
You know, this is a Silent Hill question that is sure to bring up iffy responses. What do guys think of the post-quality post-SH3 games (I refer to 4: The Room, Origins, Homecoming, Shattered Memories, and Downpour). And what do you think is the worst of them, as well as the least bad? >_<
Let me slide in before Foggle...
They're all painfully average except Shattered Memories which tries something different and makes for an interesting spin-off style game. If you go in expecting an interesting horror-inspired adventure game it's quite good.
Take it away Foggle!
The shitty thing is that Silent Hill 4 was my first experience with a Silent Hill game. That said, it was more bizarre and weird than anything else (and not really in a good or interesting way). I played a bit of Silent Hill 2 before, but that was way back when I was a lot younger and could easily get scared shit-less by horror games, so I dropped it. That said, I'll definitely pick up the first 2 games eventually, and try playing them properly, being that those kinds of games don't really scare me anymore, but rather intrigue me with their more psychological aspects.
I actually think 4 is great until it becomes an escort mission, though it never reaches the level of the first three. The second half of the game is just trash.
Origins is probably the least memorable horror game I've ever played. Mundane is the best way to describe it.
The first third (or so) of Homecoming is good enough, but the rest is absolute shit. It's an utter slog to play, fucks with the canon in stupid ways, has maybe one scary part, and features some really ugly nightmare world levels. This is the worst SH in my opinion.
Shattered Memories is cool in concept and works pretty well in execution. I lost interest about halfway through, but it's consistent and well-made at the very least. As a whole, this is probably the best Silent Hill post-3.
Downpour's combat is some of the worst I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing, but it's actually not a bad game outside of that.
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
Shattered Memories is cool in concept and works pretty well in execution. I lost interest about halfway through, but it's consistent and well-made at the very least. As a whole, this is probably the best Silent Hill post-3.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 16, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
They're all painfully average except Shattered Memories which tries something different and makes for an interesting spin-off style game. If you go in expecting an interesting horror-inspired adventure game it's quite good.
I have heard that this one is the "best" post-3 game in the series despite some crummy nightmare portions, but I still haven't actually gotten to it. I also heard it's still very strong story-wise and essentially re-imagines
every little thing from the first game, but that the story still isn't on the same level of quality as 1-3. Is this true?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 16, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
The shitty thing is that Silent Hill 4 was my first experience with a Silent Hill game. That said, it was more bizarre and weird than anything else (and not really in a good or interesting way). I played a bit of Silent Hill 2 before, but that was way back when I was a lot younger and could easily get scared shit-less by horror games, so I dropped it. That said, I'll definitely pick up the first 2 games eventually, and try playing them properly, being that those kinds of games don't really scare me anymore, but rather intrigue me with their more psychological aspects.
You should pick up Silent Hill 3 too, as it's just as good as 1-2 and is, story-wise, a direct sequel to the first game... I actually still think the first Silent Hill is the scariest game ever created, having replayed it last October.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 17, 2013, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 16, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
They're all painfully average except Shattered Memories which tries something different and makes for an interesting spin-off style game. If you go in expecting an interesting horror-inspired adventure game it's quite good.
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
Shattered Memories is cool in concept and works pretty well in execution. I lost interest about halfway through, but it's consistent and well-made at the very least. As a whole, this is probably the best Silent Hill post-3.
I also heard it's still very strong story-wise and essentially re-imagines every little thing from the first game, but that the story still isn't on the same level of quality as 1-3. Is this true?
Was hoping for some clarity and opinions on this question, as I am actually considering playing Shattered Memories someday.
A lot of it is reimagined, but it's still the same story more or less. While the plot isn't quite as good as that of the original trilogy, it actually changes depending on some of the choices you make, which is cool.
Quote from: Foggle on April 18, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
A lot of it is reimagined, but it's still the same story more or less. While the plot isn't quite as good as that of the original trilogy, it actually changes depending on some of the choices you make, which is cool.
I remember you, in the past, hating on this game more than you currently are. :happytime:
I don't really like it that much, but it's a good game. I've been striving to be more objective and friendly as of the past year or so. :sweat:
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 18, 2013, 06:30:49 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 18, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
A lot of it is reimagined, but it's still the same story more or less. While the plot isn't quite as good as that of the original trilogy, it actually changes depending on some of the choices you make, which is cool.
I remember you, in the past, hating on this game more than you currently are. :happytime:
Well to be fair it's not a traditional Silent Hill game so if you like them I could see being disappointed. But for what it is it's good.
Silent Hill 4 is probably what I would call the most frustrating Silent Hill. I like it, but it does a lot of things that piss me off. The entire second half of the game, where they make you return to all the previous areas you've been to just to make the game longer, sucks. The escort mission aspect sucks too. And I also realized I hate most of the worlds in the game, the prison probably being the worst.
Origins was mostly forgettable. I don't really remember much of it outside of the Sanitarium level, which I saw everyone online saying was impossible to get through without a walkthrough, but I had no issue with it at all.
Homecoming was... yeah. I don't know. I have a friend who fucking loves Homecoming. It's one of his favorite games in the franchise. And I don't get it. I don't think Homecoming is as shit as most fans seem to think but it definitely my least favorite Silent Hill.
I love Shattered Memories. It's one of my favorite Silent Hills in the franchise, even if it's not a traditional game by Silent Hill standards.
Downpour's combat is trash but the game itself was a step in the right direction and I'd say it was the best "traditional" Silent Hill (so, not counting Shattered Memories) since SH3.
By the way, has anyone else been checking out the news about Shinji Mikami's upcoming horror game "The Evil Within"? Because it sounds amazing.
Quote from: Eddy on April 29, 2013, 05:28:35 PM
By the way, has anyone else been checking out the news about Shinji Mikami's upcoming horror game "The Evil Within"? Because it sounds amazing.
Yes. http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=20.msg47596#msg47596 ;)
Let's rank the Silent Hills from our favorites to least favorite!
Here's mine:
Silent Hill 3 = Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill
Silent Hill Downpour
Silent Hill 4: The Room
Silent Hill 0rigins
Silent Hill Homecoming
Mine is pretty much the same as yours.
3
2
1
Shattered Memories
Downpour
4: The Room
0rigins
Homecoming
Silent Hill 2 > Silent Hill 3 = Silent Hill > The Rest
2 is just a masterpiece, in my opinion. One of the greatest game achievements ever. Just the whole tone of that game. And in terms of story, I firmly believe that few games in existence, if any, have matched it (and it was in a whole other league compared to 1 and 3's stories).
I love 1 and 3 equally for different reasons. 3 of course has the gameplay improvements, and I liked the storyline more. But Silent Hill 1, man... It's still the scariest game I've ever played. That game just gets under your skin big time. It also has the most effective soundtrack of the series in my opinion, with this theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqWOlNcv5Q) being a prime example.
As for the rest of the games in the franchise, I could honestly take or leave them.
I liked Homecoming okay, and I loved Downpour enough to buy it because I loved the small references to the other games and I liked what I played of the story. Silent Hill 2 is definietly the best though. I really wished they could have kept the formula of actions determining which ending you get through 3 and 4. That's partly why I liked Homecoming. Silent Hill 3 is the second best.
Personally, I think 2 is a masterpiece for its storytelling and atmosphere, but 3 is one of the scariest horror games I've ever played (plus THAT PLOT TWIST), so I prefer it just slightly.
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 01:24:26 AM
Personally, I think 2 is a masterpiece for its storytelling and atmosphere, but 3 is one of the scariest horror games I've ever played (plus THAT PLOT TWIST), so I prefer it just slightly.
I actually think Silent Hill 3 is less scary than 1 and 2. The areas seem a bit brighter most of the time. I consider 1 to be far scarier than the rest, and the scariest game I've ever played, just because of how it gets under your skin with that atmosphere. In the first game, I always dreaded the idea of going back into the dark worlds (or whatever they're called). That didn't really happen much with 2 and 3. Just the image of Harry Mason running through that pitch dark, rusted hospital avoiding those moaning nurses. That image
is Silent Hill to me.
Also, which plot twist in 3 are you referring to?
I think it's amazing just how good Silent Hill 3 still looks today. It looks waaaay better than Homecoming, whose graphics and art style are pretty much just gray everywhere (though the otherworld transitions were well done, even if they were shamelessly taken from the movie).
Too bad they botched the HD Collection up so bad. SH2 and 3 would look amazing if they got a proper HD upgrade and not a half-assed one.
I actually really liked Downpour. The monster design in it was awful but it told a good story and was a step in the right direction for the franchise, especially compared to Homecoming. It's too bad the studio that made Downpour was shut down.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 03, 2013, 01:47:00 AM
I actually think Silent Hill 3 is less scary than 1 and 2. The areas seem a bit brighter most of the time. I consider 1 to be far scarier than the rest, and the scariest game I've ever played, just because of how it gets under your skin with that atmosphere. In the first game, I always dreaded the idea of going back into the dark worlds (or whatever they're called). That didn't really happen much with 2 and 3. Just the image of Harry Mason running through that pitch dark, rusted hospital avoiding those moaning nurses. That image is Silent Hill to me.
Also, which plot twist in 3 are you referring to?
See, I don't actually think Silent Hill 2 is particularly scary. The only thing about it that gets under my skin is Pyramid Head. 1 and 3 were a lot creepier to me, and 3 definitely grabbed me the most in that department.
It's the one that affects the entire series, not just Silent Hill 3. Homecoming fucked it up, though.
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
See, I don't actually think Silent Hill 2 is particularly scary. The only thing about it that gets under my skin is Pyramid Head. 1 and 3 were a lot creepier to me, and 3 definitely grabbed me the most in that department.
That underground prison/oblivion area in Silent Hill 2 had me on edge the whole time. I don't think the game as a whole is that scary, but neither is 3 in my opinion.
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 10:47:26 AMIt's the one that affects the entire series, not just Silent Hill 3. Homecoming fucked it up, though.
Do you mean...
Spoiler
Heather Mason being revealed as Alessa? I don't really remember.
I mean
Spoiler
that the "monsters" probably aren't actually monsters.
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 02:41:10 PM
I mean Spoiler
that the "monsters" probably aren't actually monsters.
Spoiler
When was that stated?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 03, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 02:41:10 PM
I mean Spoiler
that the "monsters" probably aren't actually monsters.
Spoiler
When was that stated?
Spoiler
"They looked like monsters to you?" -Some dude, Silent Hill 3
I'm finally seeing Homecoming through Two Best Friends Play. :joy:
Spoiler
Oh right, that really creepy guy with the glasses said that... But I think he meant it purely as a joke. :-\
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 03, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Oh right, that really creepy guy with the glasses said that... But I think he meant it purely as a joke. :-\
Maybe, but it makes the story and canon as a whole a
lot more interesting if you view it as being true.
Quote from: Foggle on May 03, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 03, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Oh right, that really creepy guy with the glasses said that... But I think he meant it purely as a joke. :-\
Maybe, but it makes the story and canon as a whole a lot more interesting if you view it as being true.
Spoiler
I'm not sure I completely agree. I feel like it would kind of undermine that nurse's (think her name is Lisa) fate in Silent Hill 1, and would even be contradicted by it. I also simply prefer the idea that these are just true monsters that are a product of a certain person's nightmare, rather than regular people. It would also suggest that these things are actually just normal people in Silent Hill.
The Two Best Friend's play of Silent Hill Homecoming is hilarious.
And now they started the Deadly Premonition Director's Cut. Dear god. I've never even heard of the game, but it looks awful.
Deadly Premonition is amazing. Easily one of my favorite games to come from this gen.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on May 04, 2013, 01:02:55 AM
And now they started the Deadly Premonition Director's Cut. Dear god. I've never even heard of the game, but it looks awful.
Deadly Premonition is the ultimate example of good badness in gaming. Many of the ideas behind it are brilliant, but the execution is often mediocre at best. The cutscenes are so horribly done (on purpose, I think) that they actually become amazing. The writing is simultaneously nonsensical and profound. It's not for everyone, but the low budget shoddiness has its charm and the game is legitimately good if you can look past its flaws. It's easily one of my favorite games from this gen.
Look at it this way: if Resident Evil (PS1) is The Evil Dead (original), and Resident Evil 4 is Army Of Darkness, Deadly Premonition is Evil Dead 2.
It's on purpose?! Holy shit!
Until you get further into the game and the story becomes legitimately great. The gameplay is still flawed, but the world is extremely well developed and there's always something going on.
Honestly, if the gameplay was better, it would be pretty much perfect.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2013, 12:52:06 PM
Honestly, if the gameplay was better, it would be pretty much perfect.
Isn't that what Director's Cut is supposed to do...? Haven't played it yet, myself, and I don't want to spoil the experience by watching gameplay footage.
The controls are vastly improved in the Director's Cut. The aiming is still a bit finicky but, aside from that, it's a big improvement. They also removed all the difficulty levels from the game giving you one, very easy difficulty where the enemies seem to go down in two shots. Some may view this as an easy way out but, really, the game isn't about the monster battles and the combat seems to be the big thing that was keeping a lot of people away. Worth noting, Swery never wanted to have combat in the game in the first place but his publishers told him "No, you NEED combat."
The framerate is pretty awful, though.
Quote from: Eddy on May 06, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
Worth noting, Swery never wanted to have combat in the game in the first place but his publishers told him "No, you NEED combat."
He also wanted the game to have a female protagonist. While I love York and don't really have a problem with the combat, I think Swery's original vision for DP would have made an even better game.
QuoteThe framerate is pretty awful, though.
It's been a while since I've played the original, so I don't remember how the frame rate was in that one. Is the Director's Cut's better, worse, or about the same?
I think it might be worse. I'm not sure if the jump to true HD has anything to do with it. The frame rate doesn't look as bad in some areas. It seems really noticeable in spots that have a lot going on like the Red Room and the car crash site.
Man, Silent Hill Homecoming was bad but it could it have been MUCH worse. I found an interview with Tom Hulett from last year and found out some things he made them remove from the game/prevented:
- He tried to get Pyramid Head removed from the game but they wouldn't budge on it and wanted to keep him.
- Homecoming was going to be a trilogy. Heather was going to show up and team up with Alex and they were going to take down Silent Hill. Henry (SH4) was with them too maybe?
- Josh and Alessa were going to have a SUPER SAYAIN battle over Toluca Lake over control of the town.
:wth:
Quote from: Eddy on May 11, 2013, 02:57:25 AM
- Homecoming was going to be a trilogy. Heather was going to show up and team up with Alex and they were going to take down Silent Hill. Henry (SH4) was with them too maybe?
- Josh and Alessa were going to have a SUPER SAYAIN battle over Toluca Lake over control of the town.
:fuzz:
No Pyramid Head in that game would've been a good thing, if you ask me.
Any of you guys played Slender the Arrival yet? I saw a video of it on Team Four star's website, and they really improved it. Supposedly the Marble Hornets creators wrote the story too. I might get my brother to download it.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 11, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
No Pyramid Head in that game would've been a good thing, if you ask me.
Oh, I agree 100%. Pyramid Head had no place in Homecoming. I just wish he was successful in getting him taken out.
Ugh, the only horror games I've completed are Sweet Home and Resident Evil 3...I forgot, RE: Survivor too...but let`s not talk about that. Oh and some other sorry lightgun type RE, I think. :sweat: I've never played RE1, only Leon's disc in RE2, I've never played 4, 5, CV, 6, any Fatal Frame or Silent Hill game. I am way behind.
So that time of the year, the horror season, is rolling in. I'm going to use that as my go-to excuse and replay Silent Hill 1, 2, and 3 to go for endings that I hadn't gotten before.
A part of me is dreading the first game though, but in a good way; it's by far the scariest game I've ever played, and I'm afraid of facing that hospital again. :shit:
So, I saw this well-done review for the original Clock Tower on SNES, and much like Sweet Home it caught my interest from a story perspective in that this was one of the horror games that predates RE and has atmosphere to it which potentially makes it scarier, despite only supporting 16-bit graphics. Has anyone ever played this game or any of its sequels?
The only Clock Tower I've played has been the SNES original and, I agree, it makes excellent use of the SNES graphical limitations to deliver as solid horror experience. It's pretty short but the multiple endings gives it a good amount of replay value. I've considered getting a reproduction cart of the game so I could actually play it on my SNES.
Looks like I'll try an emulated version if I can find one. I think I'd like this game.
I've played a little bit of it. You might like it. From what I can tell, it's a good game, but my only problem is that, as a point and click game, a mouse would have been a more suitable way to play it than a controller (being that it was made for the Super Nintendo). They should have allowed it to be playable with the SNES Mouse.
Hideo Kojima is making the next Silent Hill game with Guillermo del Toro.
Here's the trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPA94uiwkg)
Quote from: Daikun on August 13, 2014, 05:04:39 AM
Hideo Kojima is making the next Silent Hill game with Guillermo del Toro.
Here's the trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPA94uiwkg)
Damn, I'm kinda excited for this. One of the most unexpected combos I could imagine to be working on a new Silent Hill game. And the guy who plays Daryl in Walking Dead appears to be in it. Obviously going to be a lot of money pumped into this latest game. Interesting..
Someone told me today that they played the PT (playable teaser) of this latest Silent Hill game and it scared the shit out of them..... This from a mere playable demo? I love it already! 8-)
This demo is a short, very simple loop which takes you through a hallway of a house. Interaction with a limited amount of things (mostly doors) is predetermined by the number of times you've looped the hall. Each time through this hallway feels more creepy than the last as changes gradually occur.
I'm confused. They've been making Silent Hill games since 1-3?
I'm still just looking forward to The Evil Within. It looks like the RE4 sequel that we never got.
So, Dr. E-K, are you excited for the Five Nights at Freddy's sequel that just got announced? :>
I'm sure that it'll blow The Evil Within straight out of the water. I mean, when will these Japanese devs ever learn to stop putting actual effort into their games. It's much easier to make a game about looking at cameras and shutting doors, and of course the critics will just eat that shit right up. :>
Is there any chance that Silent Hills will be ported to something beyond the PS4?
Also, for those of you who played the demo, how good is it? I'm hearing really good things.
I have a feeling Sony might be helping to fund it, so I'd guess no. But if they aren't, it probably will since Konami needs money.
If by demo you mean P.T., it's great.
It looks like this game will be its own thing. In that sense, it'll be like Silent Hill 2, which was very self contained and had no relation to the Silent Hill town lore, Alessa Gillespie, or the cult.
Good. Silent Hill 3 was the only installment that did franchise continuity right.
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 04:46:44 PM
Good. Silent Hill 3 was the only installment that did franchise continuity right.
I was just basing on what little I've read. I had hoped you'd correct me if I were wrong. :P
Silent Hill 3 executed story through its visuals so well. When the walls in the otherworld turned alive and seemed to be pulsing blood, signifying the coming birth of the demon that the cult worships, and other stuff, was perfect. And it added to the atmosphere by game so creepy. Silent Hill 3 is a bit less subtle than 1, but is just as effective.
EDIT:
I didn't love the ending, though.
Has anyone here played the old Alone in the Dark games?
A long time ago. They're pretty good from what I recall. They're basically more rudimentary and less action-y classic Resident Evil games.
I was just looking at the HG101 article on the series and the old trilogy looked pretty cool. The art style really works with early 3D graphics, too.
They're worth playing for sure, especially if you enjoy classic RE. :)
Then I might check them out. They were PC games, right?
Yes, only the second game was ever released on a console, I think. If you like survival horror games, these were some of the first.
They predate Resident Evil.
Yeah, I remember hearing that they predate RE. I love the sound of PC Survival Horror. Those sound extra scary to me.
Missed this Silent Hills trailer somehow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY91vV0rWr4
So good.
Are any of the Galerians games good?
Hey Foggle, what are the chances that Silent Hills will be released on Steam or PS3?
0%. Sony is funding the game I think, and PT would probably be on the PS3 as well if they were planning on releasing Silent Hills for it. Also, I doubt it'll be coming out until late 2016 at the earliest, and cross-gen releases will have almost certainly ceased to exist by then.
Not that it matters, though. I have absolutely no faith in that game without Kojima's involvement.
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2015, 09:23:36 PM
Also, I doubt it'll be coming out until late 2016 at the earliest, and cross-gen releases will have almost certainly ceased to exist by then.
Wait, what makes you think that?
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2015, 09:23:36 PMNot that it matters, though. I have absolutely no faith in that game without Kojima's involvement.
Wait, is it confirmed that he's no longer working on this game?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 16, 2015, 09:28:33 PM
Wait, what makes you think that?
I don't think they've even entered full development on the game yet.
Quote
Wait, is it confirmed that he's no longer working on this game?
Considering that Kojima is being forced out of Konami by the end of the year, Kojima Productions has been all but shut down, and Konami spent a couple of weeks removing Kojima's name from the boxes of games he previously worked on...
Well, there goes my interest in the only PS4 game I was looking forward to. Now I won't feel like I'm missing out on it when I don't get that console!
PT is being removed from the PlayStation Store on April 29th.
Quote from: http://www.konami.jp/pt/en/index.php5The distribution period of "P.T. (Playable Teaser)" on PlayStation®Store will expire on Wednesday, April 29, 2015.
I guess Silent Hills actually has been canceled. Kojima must have
really pissed off Konami...
If you own or ever plan on buying a PS4, or know someone who does, I highly recommend creating a PSN account and adding it to your download list from this link, (https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/pt/cid=UP4511-CUSA01127_00-PPPPPPPPTTTTTTTT) as it's easily one of the best horror games in recent memory.
Silent Hills is not happening.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/04/26/rumor-quot-it-39-s-not-gonna-happen-quot-says-guillermo-del-toro-on-silent-hills.aspx
Guess we can put Silent Hill back into that pile of dead Konami franchises.
Still... what exactly happened? Who in Konami Headquarters did Kojima have an affair with to cause all this heat?
Oh whoa, another Del Toro project gets canceled. I am so surprised.
Keep it up, Konami.
Where's the Death Of Konami thread? They have to be doing worse than Capcom at this point.
I'd do it, but I don't have the free years it would take to type up the thread.
Tell me about it.
We don't really need a Death of Konami thread. I mean, we already have a thread for all things Konami. http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=1328.0
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/251858-report-konami-delists-itself-from-new-york-stock-exchange (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/251858-report-konami-delists-itself-from-new-york-stock-exchange)
So, do any of you guys think Silent Hills will, one day, happen?
I do think Kojima and Del Toro will probably end up making a horror game together someday, and I'm sure Konami will eventually farm the SH license out to another developer, but the "true" Silent Hills is dead, man.
Quote from: Foggle on August 15, 2015, 09:22:55 PMI do think Kojima and Del Toro will probably end up making a horror game together someday
Kojima? Probably. Del Toro? Nope. He's done. (http://www.shacknews.com/article/90801/guillermo-del-toro-will-never-again-get-involved-in-video-games)
Quote"I have proven to be the albatross of video games," he says. "I joined THQ, and THQ goes broke. I join Kojima, and Kojima leaves Konami. I have decided, in order not to destroy anyone else's life, I have decided I will never again get involved in video games. Otherwise, I'll join someone and his house will explode, or something."
I don't know, maybe he should give it another shot by developing a brand new project...with EA, then with Ubisoft, followed by Capcom, and work his way around to KoeiTecmo after that. One by one, he can thoroughly dismantle the corrupt establishments that run a tyranny over the video game industry. :humhumhum:
:lol:
Quote from: Foggle on August 15, 2015, 09:22:55 PM
I do think Kojima and Del Toro will probably end up making a horror game together someday, and I'm sure Konami will eventually farm the SH license out to another developer, but the "true" Silent Hills is dead, man.
If Shenmue III can happen, anything can.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 15, 2015, 06:11:05 PM
So, do any of you guys think Silent Hills will, one day, happen?
Nope, Konami is done with video games. You might as well ask if we'll be getting a new Suikoden, Contra, Gradius, Castlevania, or Rocket Knight Adventures.
The series is done. You'll have to get your survival horror fix elsewhere.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 16, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
If Shenmue III can happen, anything can.
Also, it does make me wonder. If Konami never ended up selling the brand (not saying this will happen, but let's just assume for the sake of discussion), will no Silent Hill game ever get re-released again?
Unfortunately, Konami has been really bad with rereleases. People have been waiting for Gradius V, for instance, to release on PSN for like 5 years now. They have never rereleased a single Rocket Knight Adventures game, and their classic late 80s-early 90s arcade games have been all but forgotten.
Unless someone outright buys the franchises from them and gets the rights to those games, I don't think we can ever hope to see them properly released again.
When I said Konami is one of the worst game companies, I didn't just mean in one area. They're terrible at everything nowadays.
The original Silent Hill trilogy still hasn't gotten its PC release (a proper re-release, not like the PS3 and 360 versions which removed the fog). Konami is so bad.
Silent Hill 2 and 3 don't really need re-releases on PC (except maybe through Steam or GOG), though, as they're already the definitive versions of the games, and have been since they came out. SH2 is a bit tricky to get working on modern hardware, but both of them sport better graphics and framerates than their console counterparts (and they have fog!).
I actually forgot their previous PC releases. But it would still be really nice if all three games could get convenient releases on Steam.
I've heard some criticism of the PC versions of 2 and 3. Do you know why that is? Also, why is it harder getting 2 working on modern hardware?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 17, 2015, 04:12:06 PM
I've heard some criticism of the PC versions of 2 and 3. Do you know why that is? Also, why is it harder getting 2 working on modern hardware?
Because they're hard to find and don't control well with the keyboard, maybe? I'm honestly not sure. I've also played the PS2 and PS3 versions of the games (and the original Xbox version of SH2), and both titles to be far superior on PC. Just plug in a USB controller and you're good to go.
Silent Hill 2 on PC doesn't support processors with multiple cores. Trying to run the game on modern hardware will inevitably cause it to lag and freeze... but this can be easily fixed by manually setting it to only use one of your cores from the task manager. SH3 has no such problems, as far as I know.
It looks like the PC version of 2 is a lot more expensive to buy nowadays. I guess it's more rare.
EDIT:
Man, these prices are awful. :bleh:
To be honest, I just torrented them. I have no qualms with piracy if copies of a game are no longer being manufactured. Neither the developer nor publisher will ever see any money from the PC versions of SH2 and 3 again anyway, unless they do a Steam or GOG re-release... in which case, I'll promptly purchase them. ;)
It really is amazing how these companies don't just put them up on Steam or GOG. Almost no effort, yet a lot of return.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
It really is amazing how these companies don't just put them up on Steam or GOG. Almost no effort, yet a lot of return.
Yeah. As long as they fixed up SH2's multi-core bug, they could have just popped both of them on Steam the same day the console HD Collection launched and probably doubled their profit.
Quote from: Foggle on August 17, 2015, 09:55:56 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
It really is amazing how these companies don't just put them up on Steam or GOG. Almost no effort, yet a lot of return.
Yeah. As long as they fixed up SH2's multi-core bug, they could have just popped both of them on Steam the same day the console HD Collection launched and probably doubled their profit.
But if they did that, then Steam probably would have gotten the HD Collection, bad versions of 2 and 3, and no version of 1.
EDIT:
Foggle, are these the right versions of the PC versions of 2 and 3?
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hill-2-PC/dp/B00007M9SI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439917255&sr=8-1&keywords=silent+hill+2+pc
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hill-3-PC/dp/B0000EZGDM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439917221&sr=8-1&keywords=silent+hill+pc
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 18, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
But if they did that, then Steam probably would have gotten the HD Collection, bad versions of 2 and 3, and no version of 1.
I doubt that. There'd be no need to port the games again, especially since the PC versions already look better than the HD Collection. And while it would suck to not have SH1 on PC, it's important to remember that the 360 doesn't have it either.
There's a fan-made PC port of SH1 btw. It works pretty well.
QuoteEDIT:
Foggle, are these the right versions of the PC versions of 2 and 3?
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hill-2-PC/dp/B00007M9SI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439917255&sr=8-1&keywords=silent+hill+2+pc
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hill-3-PC/dp/B0000EZGDM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439917221&sr=8-1&keywords=silent+hill+pc
Probably. Like I said, I don't actually own them. Looks like SH3 has gone way down in price since I last checked, but SH2... :whuh:
Prices scarier than the fucking game...
For real! :lol: Haunting Ground is in the same situation these days.
:'( :'( Not Haunting Ground! I really wanted to play that...
It might be on PSN eventually... it already is in Japan. Let's hope for that. :)
I actually have a Japanese copy, which was super cheap, and is (mostly) in English. :joy:
Huzzah!
Quote from: Foggle on August 18, 2015, 12:30:11 PM
I doubt that. There'd be no need to port the games again, especially since the PC versions already look better than the HD Collection. And while it would suck to not have SH1 on PC, it's important to remember that the 360 doesn't have it either.
Wouldn't putting them on Steam mean porting them again? :P
Not unless they pulled an RE4, which isn't really necessary here. They'd just be uploading the preexisting files onto the Steam servers, with a few compatibility tweaks here and there.
Is it true that a lot of tweaking needs to be done to make the PC versions look and play as good as possible?
All I did was plug in a controller, then alt-tab to open up task manager and set SH2 to use only one core. I mean, I guess you need to futz around with the graphics settings like any other PC game, but I don't remember either of them being too complicated to get working. SH3 in particular was no more difficult to set up than the PlayStation versions.
I know it's probably hard to say given the fact that only a demo was ever released. But based on that and expectations, how do you think Silent Hills was shaping up compared to the rest of the series?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 21, 2015, 07:32:26 PM
I know it's probably hard to say given the fact that only a demo was ever released. But based on that and expectations, how do you think Silent Hills was shaping up compared to the rest of the series?
It's definitely hard to say. One thing's for certain, I've never before seen such strong hype for a new Silent Hill game. The PT demo was scary fun and made strong waves in the gaming community. Anticipation was at an all time high. And I think Konami had everyones' jaws hit the floor when Norman Reedus was supposed to have been hired to be in the game. It's mind boggling with how much devotion was seemingly going into this production... and then the plug got pulled.
P.T. is legitimately the scariest game that I've ever played (even if it's just a demo) and I'm not easily scared. It just disheartens me to see such huge potential go to waste.
I'm still avoiding info and spoilers on Silent Hills. I can't help but still have this feeling that we haven't seen the last of it. Again I remind us, Shenmue III is actually happening. Did anyone think that was possible? And if that can happen, anything can.
Shenmue 3 is being pursued by its creator with permission by Sega after a decade and a half of waiting.
Who is going to push Silent Hills or convince Konami (of all companies) to let them make it?
Silent Hill is over, man.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2015, 04:25:48 PM
Silent Hill is over, man.
No it's not. It's better than ever.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.relyonhorror.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2Fsilent-hill-pachinko.jpg&hash=e55ee07269b193a2343269110c4482824dd649ba)
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 24, 2015, 03:55:26 PM
I'm still avoiding info and spoilers on Silent Hills.
Well, if there's one thing you have to check out, it's the message that is heard at the end of the PT demo. Speculation says that Hideo Kojima knew beforehand that this game would never see the light of day under Konami. The theory is that he put in a personal rant against the publisher. It's interesting when you think about it.
For a hint..
In the message, "Dad" is theorized to be Konami. The rest of it is pretty self explanatory.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 24, 2015, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2015, 04:25:48 PM
Silent Hill is over, man.
No it's not. It's better than ever.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.relyonhorror.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2Fsilent-hill-pachinko.jpg&hash=e55ee07269b193a2343269110c4482824dd649ba)
I really thought that was a joke. I wish it was just a joke. :gonk:
Why didn't we ever get Fatal Frame 4?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 27, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
Why didn't we ever get Fatal Frame 4?
There were a lot of bugs that Nintendo and Tecmo disagreed with over fixing.
They should have just fixed it. :bleh:
Do any of you guys consider there to be a... best Silent Hill game after the original three?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 27, 2015, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 27, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
Why didn't we ever get Fatal Frame 4?
There were a lot of bugs that Nintendo and Tecmo disagreed with over fixing.
Yep. And those bugs were later fixed by the folks who made the English patch, so they probably weren't too difficult to iron out, meaning that Tecmo was just lazy and NoA/E didn't care enough about the series to push them.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 27, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Do any of you guys consider there to be a... best Silent Hill game after the original three?
The first half of 4 is excellent, Shattered Memories and Downpour have great ideas but middling execution, the really early parts of Homecoming are good, Origins is consistently playable. So, 4.
Who knows, maybe it'll get an eshop release with a patch. I'm kind of hoping this is our chance to get Day of Disaster and Another Code since they never got physical releases over here.
Relevant to Silent Hills and PT... http://webm.host/0b9c3/vid.webm
Anyone here played Until Dawn, yet? I went and bout it as my brother recommended it. It seems okay so far, controls are simple and it relies on atmosphere as well as some better placed jump-scares than other games.
Watching Mahou play it right now. Seems like a really cool game!
Quote from: Foggle on August 28, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Relevant to Silent Hills and PT... http://webm.host/0b9c3/vid.webm
Oh. My. God. :e_shocked:
Quote from: Lord Il on August 28, 2015, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Foggle on August 28, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Relevant to Silent Hills and PT... http://webm.host/0b9c3/vid.webm
Oh. My. God. :e_shocked:
Can't see it, what's the link?
Double post, but another great thing about Until Dawn is that it doesn't take itself seriously. I mean, of course when certain character get killed off it's treated seriously like it should but what I mean is that there's plenty of good humor in the game through the wittiness of some of the cast.
Really, horror filmmakers out there should be taking notes from this game.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 28, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Can't see it, what's the link?
The final monologue from P.T. ("dad was such a drag") can be heard playing on one of the radios in Metal Gear Solid 5. :)
Quote from: Foggle on August 28, 2015, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 28, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Can't see it, what's the link?
The final monologue from P.T. ("dad was such a drag") can be heard playing on one of the radios in Metal Gear Solid 5. :)
Ah, cool! No doubt a subtle way of sticking it to Konami.
Quote from: Foggle on August 27, 2015, 10:07:20 PM
The first half of 4 is excellent, Shattered Memories and Downpour have great ideas but middling execution, the really early parts of Homecoming are good, Origins is consistently playable. So, 4.
It's weird. Silent Hill didn't crash and burn like some other franchises. But... after 3, did Konami just not know how to keep it running? Did the formula wear thin?
Outsourcing happened.
Quote from: Foggle on August 29, 2015, 01:20:07 AM
Outsourcing happened.
But weren't the first few post-3 games made by the original team?
Only 4 was, and the first half of it is arguably just as good as 1-3.
Quote from: Foggle on August 29, 2015, 01:29:33 AM
Only 4 was, and the first half of it is arguably just as good as 1-3.
Is it true that's the last game that feels like a classic Silent Hill game (not saying it's as good as one, just that it retains much of that Silent Hill feel)?
Origins feels like a traditional Silent Hill game. Just not a very good one.
So then, I guess the absolute total collapse of the series was when western developers took cracks at it?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 30, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
So then, I guess the absolute total collapse of the series was when western developers took cracks at it?
Yeah. Which isn't to say that western developers are incapable of making a great Silent Hill game... just not the ones Konami hired, and not for the probably small budgets they allotted.
What would you guys call the best horror games?
Silent Hill 1-3, Fatal Frame 2-4, System Shock 2, Haunting Ground, Siren 1-3, Resident Evil (Remake) & 2 & 4, The Suffering 1 & 2, Penumbra 1 & 2, The Evil Within, F.E.A.R., Condemned, Cursed Mountain, Deadly Premonition, P.T.
EDIT: Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, White Day, Imscared
Just found out that Project Siren apparently employs a lot of people from Team Silent, and was founded by the director/writer of the original Silent Hill. No wonder those games are so good.
And pretend I mentioned Eternal Darkness in the previous post.
Quote from: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 08:23:30 PM
Just found out that Project Siren apparently employs a lot of people from Team Silent, and was founded by the director/writer of the original Silent Hill. No wonder those games are so good.
I was unaware that you didn't know this. People were basically freaking out because Sony basically "acquired Team Silent" around Siren's release. Unfortunately, they haven't had the chance to do a whole lot yet.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
I was unaware that you didn't know this. People were basically freaking out because Sony basically "acquired Team Silent" around Siren's release.
I was 10... :P
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
Unfortunately, they haven't had the chance to do a whole lot yet.
Well, they made three pretty fantastic horror games. Just wish they'd finish Gravity Rush 2 already so they could maybe do another!
Quote from: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
I was unaware that you didn't know this. People were basically freaking out because Sony basically "acquired Team Silent" around Siren's release.
I was 10... :P
Was that when these games came out? I'm still confused about how you age.
The first one came out in 2003. I remember watching the trailer on my friend's PS2 demo disc when I was 9 and practically shitting myself. :lol:
Quote from: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 08:23:30 PM
Just found out that Project Siren apparently employs a lot of people from Team Silent, and was founded by the director/writer of the original Silent Hill. No wonder those games are so good.
And pretend I mentioned Eternal Darkness in the previous post.
What games are they currently working on?
Gravity Rush 2, presumably for PS4.
Quote from: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
I was unaware that you didn't know this. People were basically freaking out because Sony basically "acquired Team Silent" around Siren's release.
I was 10... :P
Kids these days. With that said, I had no clue Sony had the Silent Hill team.
So apparently Junji Ito was also working on Silent Hills.
Hideo Kojima, Guillermo Del Toro, and Junji Ito. That's a fucking horror dream team. Unbelievable.
Konami disgusts me so much.
Hey, Konami is the best. Kojima just left because he was a loser. He would have faded into obscurity decades ago without them. Hopefully he'll go back to whatever dump he came from while Konami continues producing gold.
You're crazy. Absolutely crazy.
Friends, please, if you have a Wii U and any interest in horror games, I implore you to buy the new Fatal Frame either on release day or shortly afterward. This may be the series' last chance in the west, and it's being jeopardized by a sudden uproar of anger over two optional fanservice outfits being replaced by Nintendo costumes. I know $50 is a lot to ask for a digital game, but this series is excellent and very important to me, and I don't want to see it die because of something so stupid. Every purchase helps, seriously.
At the very least, download the free demo and see if you like it. Even simple trial downloads might help show Nintendo that people have interest in these games.
If I owned a Wii-U, I would totally hit that up. Unfortunately, I don't own any current-gen consoles as of yet. :(
There are many thing about Fatal Frame 5 that makes me feel like Nintendo of America is trying their hardest to make sure this game fails. With the little to no marketing of the game and it being digital only. I mean, if they're worried about it failing, why not do some marketing for it other than a trailer on your damned YT channel that uses the "spoopy" meme? It's like you're setting up to fail and then when fans ask about another game, you'll just point towards your manufactured failure as a reason to why you're not doing anything more with it. Seriously, I kinda forgot that this game was coming out until the uproar about the bikini being removed in favor of a ZSS and Zelda clothing.
Also 10-15 GB to download this thing? I hope you have an external hard drive. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all, but it does kinda make me wish that I could just buy the game off the eShop when I don't have sufficient space like I can with Steam. Shit annoyed me when I wanted to buy a few Wii games when they were discounted.
Quote from: Daxdiv on October 20, 2015, 06:45:20 PMAlso 10-15 GB to download this thing? I hope you have an external hard drive.
Actually, that's pretty light nowadays. There are much worse examples (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1035799) out there. Since we're now in the terabyte era of computing, 10GB is getting off easy.
Quote from: Daikun on October 20, 2015, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on October 20, 2015, 06:45:20 PMAlso 10-15 GB to download this thing? I hope you have an external hard drive.
Actually, that's pretty light nowadays. There are much worse examples (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1035799) out there. Since we're now in the terabyte era of computing, 10GB is getting off easy.
With a system that highest built-in GB is 32? That's almost like 1/3-1/2 the console storage space. I have to think about what to delete in this case since I don't have enough space to download it on my system as it is. Damn eShop and retro games taking up all that space.
I mean, I agree with you 100% about the lack of marketing and the no retail disc/super large download size. But even some people who were interested in it before aren't going to buy it now because of two costumes, and that makes me sad. :(
I must be the only person that doesn't care about costumes unless it's a retro costume for some rebooted series. Even in fighting games I use the default character colors.
Guess I'm just weird that way. ;)
I haven't played a Fatal Frame game before (I did buy the first game off PSN a while ago, though), but I'll be sure to pick up FF5 when it comes out this week. The game looks quite good, and it's a shame that NoA is treating it so badly.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 20, 2015, 08:27:52 PM
I must be the only person that doesn't care about costumes unless it's a retro costume for some rebooted series. Even in fighting games I use the default character colors.
Guess I'm just weird that way. ;)
Same, to be honest. But if I see a
really awesome costume, I might be tempted to use it.
Quote from: VLordGTZ on October 20, 2015, 09:27:40 PM
I haven't played a Fatal Frame game before (I did buy the first game off PSN a while ago, though), but I'll be sure to pick up FF5 when it comes out this week. The game looks quite good, and it's a shame that NoA is treating it so badly.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 20, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
If I owned a Wii-U, I would totally hit that up. Unfortunately, I don't own any current-gen consoles as of yet. :(
:el_hail:
Keep in mind that I can't vouch for the new game's quality, but the support means a lot to both me and the rest of the fanbase.
Quote from: Foggle on October 20, 2015, 07:41:36 PM
I mean, I agree with you 100% about the lack of marketing and the no retail disc/super large download size. But even some people who were interested in it before aren't going to buy it now because of two costumes, and that makes me sad. :(
I'm not denying that. It does appear that NoA/NoE's decision to remove the costume was the straw that broke the camel's back for some people. That and people thinking that NoA is arguably the worst branch of Nintendo. Probably not gonna deny that last bit, since it does feel that NoA is at the mercy of NCL.
Hell, even after seeing the costume in question, it is pretty risque. I remember that this was the same company that signed off on censoring Tharja's butt in FE: Awakening. When I first heard about that, I just thought her butt was eating up the swimsuit, turned out Tharja suit was pretty tame and the edit for me made it kinda lewd due to the imagination factor. Then I remember that the translation job for Awakening was handled by 8-4, so I don't know who to blame for that one.
NoA is definitely the worst branch of Nintendo, but they did throw us at least half a bone with Fatal Frame 5. I'd rather take the ludicrously huge digital version over no version at all.
8-4 added a fair amount of swearing and sex jokes to Nier and especially Drakengard 3, so I doubt they'd be responsible for any censorship.